Both teams. 8

Or maybe they just want the rules to be enforced 3

I guess that means that players cant be assessed techs during time outs for taunting, since "An official may assess a technical foul, without prior warning, at any time. A technical foul(s) may be assessed to any player on the court or anyone seated on th 0

No, Im really not. If timeouts paused the game, by your logic, then any rule that specifies that an offense occurs during the game cannot be given out during timeouts, when the game is paused. Im sorry if you dont like following your own logic to its lo -1

KAT has 20/10 at half time. Butler has 14 points all game. Hmmmmmm. 8

He played like 150 straight games leading into the draft, being tired his final season in Europe probably had something to do with it. Also, Euroleague is closer to NBA level than this sub likes to admit, and that comes from most people having never watc 3

**LAURIS LEAGUE** 2

Did you miss the part where Jordan also won DPOY and averaged almost 5 STOCKS per game? 3

Curry/Jordan/Bird/Lebron/Hakeem. 1

> It has a legit place in public discourse for better or worse. Almost exclusively for worse. 2

It also gives many people a platform who for all intents and purposes should not be heard. 4

Im torn between upvoting because I agree with Simmons, and downvoting because OPs take on it is awful. 12

I neither confirm nor deny anything. 4

Because half this sub is dumb kids who dont know anything beyond yelling memes at each other. 15

If we are expected to respect the greatness of player, like Lebron, then yes we should be expected to respect the greatness of teams as well. That being said, fuck them both. -1

Kobe, like Jordan in a certain way, was a worldwide phenomenon in a way that Lebron isnt. People who didnt care about basketball in the slightest still knew Kobe, and would still shout Kobe when tossing paper into a trashcan. He transcended the sport in 4

I mean, Rodman was denied it. So, yeah. 22

All that matters is the W. 11

Its not even the fucking off-season and youre already in full off-season form I see. 1

> Says stop talking about Zion > Talks about Zion 21

Previous experience matters 1

Maybe because Harden is a playoff vet and Giannis is incredibly inexperienced? 0

Its not like this was on the front page yesterday or anything. 1

I think most fans would rather see a guy from their team than the 25th best player in their league make the all-star game. 1

As Ive said on this sub before: Kareems primary claim to fame is his longevity. Kareem was never considered the Goat even in his prime, and most of his success came after his prime; both Bird and Magic were thought to have surpassed him, and only now in 3

Absolutely, it cant truly be understated how much he dominated the college game. But with regards his NBA career, he was dominant for an extended period of time, but not dominant to the greatest heights of some others in the top 10. Its telling, for exa 1

Trying to grow something, and then not allowing anyone who isnt already involved to continue, is absolutely awful methodology. 3

I mean, yeah, he did. 15

Ergo, cogito sum. 1

No he didnt mate, they just refused to trade him because the package wasnt good enough. 5

Shaq was trade 3 years before Kobe demanded a trade and wanted to go to the Bulls. 1

All good! What happened was Kobe had a no-trade deal, and wanted to go to the Bulls, but insisted that Deng stay in Chicago because he wanted to play with him. LA refused to make the deal unless Deng was included, so they stalemated and LA basically tol 2

Odom, Evans, Mayo, Len Bias for sure. Probably a lot others. 1

Given how often you post about your crippling alcoholism, I doubt youd be running anywhere. 0

I dont know, when Larry Bird himself, in his prime, calls someone else God I tend to believe him. 1

We just gonna ignore the 3 seasons Lebron didnt make the playoffs at all? Once Jordan had what it takes to make the finals, he always got there, and he always won. 2

MJ missed the playoffs when he was fucking 40 and playing for the Wizards. 0

Using TS% to judge players of different eras is just as bad as using FG% in a vacuum. Neither accounts for styles/eras/paces of play. 2

Syllabic drift and slurring, basically. 3

Anyone who played in college would be one of the best WNBA players in the league. Anyone who didnt wouldnt cut it. 18

Maybe not, but [they are very......weird......together](https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/neymar-and-his-sister-have-seriously-creepy-tattoos-of-each-other/). 1

> wrong, they won a ring with lebron at point guard, narrating the offense around picking apart the other teams defensive matchups against the cavs. There is so much grammatically wrong with that sentence I dont even know where to begin. 4

The Suns are not jumping up 30 wins. 3

And besides that, its just insanely rare for *any* team to jump that many games from one season to the next, and it generally involves injury-ridden previous seasons (like the Spurs). 3

That 6/6 is so aesthetically pleasing. 3

> Silver found an excuse to force him to sell Exactly. To what extent everything happened doesnt really matter (in all likelihood it was all completely true), it was just an excuse that allowed the league to force him out. 10

Steph career playoff averages: 27/6/5 on 61% TS%. Kyrie career playoff averages: 24/5/3 on 56% TS%. But sure, ok. 12

CTE soup to be precise. 1

Thinking a DPOY winner could guard someone is insane? -1

Oh fuck off and stop wasting your money on gilding this shit. 5

The kinds of people who make homophobic jokes are the same ones who couldnt care less whether or not the story was fabricated. 3

You forgot the 3rd possibility too: the Lakers starters arent that good either. 0

Oh fuck off Fertitta. Its not a "political" position to support human rights. 5

Morey had the audacity to support Hong Kong against the authoritarian government that commits human rights violations on a daily basis. The NBA, corporation that it is, doesnt like the risk of losing money so they through Morey under the bus. 7

[Dont mind me, just trying to please my Chinese dictator.](https://giphy.com/gifs/disney-winnie-the-pooh-many-adventures-of-84ZzhsJZWlE3e) 1

[Its happening!](https://giphy.com/gifs/excited-ron-paul-its-happening-rl0FOxdz7CcxO) 3

lmao Lebron received 4 *total* 1st place votes that year. Barely anybody thought he should win. He finished 3rd in the voting. And for you to even imply that Rose had a better supporting cast while Lebron played with 2 future hall-of-famers is laughabl 2

> Put LeBron on the #1 defense and good night. He already played for the #5 defense that year. Joel Anthony started 11 games at center that year. Arroyo started 42. 1

This sounds like something Trump would say to be entirely honest... 183

Hannah Arendt on the Banality of Evil. Seems relevant these days. 4

It seems that way, because it is. 7

Oh fuck off. The reason diuretics are outlawed is because theyre almost exclusively used to mask PEDs. If he took it accidentally as he says, the league will cut the sentence. But ignorance does not excuse action. 17

Youre right, he was credited for one earlier in the game after he checked out. Too quick on the draw. 2

Because truth exists independent of what subreddits someone follows? 2

Originally, Honk Kong was opposing an oppressive law that China imposed that would allow easier extradition to the mainland, which did not follow the agreement laid out when Britain left. Now, its become more a protest for democracy as a whole, especiall 3

> Harden leads league in FTA > Harden averages 40% more FTAs than the next closest > Why do people not like him Youre an idiot 2

Do you have booze? Also weve lost to you twice so maybe we could at least co-habitate the dungeon? 2

Its also been the MO for soccer and cricket leagues for decades. You know, the two most popular sports in the world, and who arent losing ratings like the NBA is. 2

Depends on how you define "biggest", but Lebron has always been incredibly careful in crafting his public persona, especially in such a way that people tend to forget when hes fucked up. Regardless, the focus always, somehow or another, ends up on him. 27

Because he never intended the primary reason to be to raise money for charity, that was secondary. It was an attention driven move, and he immediately followed it up with the whole "not 1, not 2, not 3" thing. He did it because he wanted eyes to be on h 7

China; the decision was in bad taste. Removing videos that made him look bad with Nikes help; covering up cheating on his wife; his comments about Dirk, and about the Spurs; Taco Tuesday trademark; etc. 6

T-Wolves and generational bigs in horrible situations. 4

Id say top 15, only because Center is so stacked. Russell/Wilt/Kareem/Hakeem/Shaq/Moses/Robinson/Ewing gives you 8 right off the bat, and thats still before guys like Walton/Mikan/BigBen, whether or not you count Duncan/Pau as forwards or centers, etc. 5

And not a single one of them looks to be capable of moving the needle. Dude must be katatonic. 6

> there is no expectation or outcry about other hourly workers Yes there is. Look around a bit more. 17

> AD is consistently underappreciated ever since he joined the LAL Because everybody who plays with Lebron gets underappreciated. 2

Without question. The East in the 90s was much stronger than the East in the 2010s. Edit: To be honest anybody who says no has some serious cognitive dissonance going on. If Lebron can "drag" his team to the finals every year, and MJ is a better playe 6

According to Madonna, Scottie Pippen. 1

"This has a 10% chance to kill me? Why are you all looking at this like its a glass half empty, let me play!" 8

Colour is how it is spelled in Britain and in places that learn English using the British system. And also, in the US where it is spelled color, the verb is the same form: to color. Youre wrong on every account. 4

This is the only place in the world where kids will try to justify losing 6 times in the finals as being somehow better than winning 3 times in the finals. Dont mean a thing without a ring. 13

And Id rather lose in the 1st round than miss the playoffs entirely in three rounds. 1

I could come up with a Darko mix that would make him look like the future of the league too. 1

You jest, but not by much. MJ was putting up half of his teams points during playoffs games constantly. Put him on a team where the average score is pushing 140, without hand checking, and... 2

The best midrange shooter of all time, taking shots against teams that are taught not to defend those shots? Hed shoot like 75% on them. 1

MVP =/= best player. 4

No, its confirmed that you can get it more than once. The anti-bodies only last for around three months. 28

Its times like these when I wish Stern was still heading things up. 6

"Lebrons lost a few in a row? Hmmmmm how can I make MJ look like a bitch instead." 6

> The difference in playmaking is big Its really not, they played different positions. The season Jordan was asked to play point, he averaged 8 assists per game. 0