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Literally a perfect game 21
Yeah but Russ isnt playing. Oh wait. 3
Who is Okogie and why has he taken those shots 0
OP just got Wooooooshed 5
ITS BEEN 5 GAMES! 2
A miracle for a top 3 player to win MVP? If the Warriors dominate during the regular season with say 70 wins he could definitely win it. He always puts up amazing numbers so that no issue. Its just about whether voters think he is better than Curry o -6
Why is it titled as Kemba Walker instead of Charlotte Hornets. 4
wtf op? Before the post gets deleted this is what /u/electrowhizzz said: >I feel there is a strong correlation between low bbiq and hip hop in the NBA. Players that chose to get tattoos and adopt the hip hop hustle mindset tend to not get signed 8
Who wants to take on his contract? 1
What a stupid irrational take. 5
Oh that makes sense. Thanks 1
Thats insane! 3
Good for you buddy 1
>Serious 6
Oof 3
Wow you are so brave op. You dont even care about being downvoted 2
Id like to think most people with at least half a brain cell would do the same 1
Lmao OP stop being insecure and needing people to tell you that your team is playing well. 1
Worst part is I was just looking at his history OP is a Boston fan. How lame do you have to be to try and pull a stunt like this. 4
How many times do Raptors fans have to go through this. In their eyes the media is always disrespecting them. Well respect is something thats earned and when the Raptors fall apart every playoffs they wont earn it. 1
How embarrassing. Why do people even do this shit? 2
Good lord thats impressive, im so glad I drafted him on my fantasy team. 5
I cant even be mad. That was awesome to see him playing so well. 5
Get lost 1
Ouch! 4
This post is not faulting Dwight. Its saying that the Wiz fans told us to wait for him and they would preform better with a healthy team. Now they are down 30 at home at halftime. 8
I dont want to right them of with the talent they have but they are awful right now. 1
This is awesome! 0
You cant be serious? This sub loves Lebron like crazy. the Woj post only made it so much more obvious. 16
Apart from Booker those players have all lead their team to the playoffs though. 1
Nah that was a hamstring, this looks so much worse. 2
Luke is going to be a scapegoat whenever things go bad because Lebron wont get any large scale blame for his lazy defence and Lakers fans will want to defend their young core of players that they have been hyping up. Another thing Id like to add is t 34
It makes sense as well tbh as to why fans always use coaches as a scapegoat. They always hype up their young players and so to say that they are underperforming will look bad on them. On the other hand nobody really goes around bragging about how muc 2
True, but you get the idea though. Fans value coaches far less than they do players so its much much easier to shift blame to them. 3
The Jazz have 8 players with multiple field goals so far where as Doncic is the only such player for the Mavs 1
Delete this garbage. Trying way too hard op. 9
Forget to switch accounts? 4
Ill die fighting for what I believe in lmao 15
Couldnt agree more. The worst is post game threads that get removed 10 minutes after reaching like 500 comments and then people cant even discuss the game anymore. Its a joke honestly. 2
I made a post criticising the mods that just got banned. This may be my last message before i get banned lol. 3
Thats actually a good question. Im not sure of an exact answer but Id assume not. 8
BREAKING NEWS! 6
Thats a pretty big disparity. Im not watching but where they warranted? 1
Who have they played? 1
I hate the argument that the Spurs would have won the WCF in 2017. In game 1 of their second round series they got demolished by Houston and lost by 27 points at home. San Antonio of course ended up winning that series in 6 games with the series clin 12
> It was important in these last Finals. Not really, worst case scenario for the Warriors they win in 5. Every Cavaliers fan and every nba fan knew the Cavs where no chance of winning that series. They use the excuse of JRs blunder as "a seri 7
Lmao 11
haha good one op! very funny. 0
Easily -5
Did op make this post just so mods could delete it? 42
>I dunno maybe shaq or some other big dude lmao 10
Youve never heard the term teammates? 3
Draymond vs Fultz. 4
Id take the DPOY in Draymond over Fultz 3
Who cares? 1
Holy crap so Mitchell isnt even close. Do you know what the record would be for say the last 15 years? 3
He definitely does but Ive never seen it be this bad. 3
Unfortunately this season he has declined in efficiency. Add to that this is definitely one of the worst halves Ive ever seen him play. 4
Yikes, he really plays poorly against you guys. 1
Neither has played well but this post wasnt made to compare the two. 8
Hed be useless 4
5 15
> Little did you know Ingrams career high is 32 points. Besides that he hasnt scored over 26 points in the NBA and College since his high school days. Lets that sink in... Thats actually really ridiculous to consider. I never realised that he hasn 7
Ben has been pretty good this year especially lately. 4
What is satire about it? Donovan Mitchell has been wildly inconsistent this year and this is by far his worst game of the season. He has had amazing games and really bad games but overall his form this year has been worse than what he showed for the -2
2013-14 Nets 1
Never mind, the won. But that was a bit close for comfort for Sacramento fans. 4
Hes staying. Its about someone else joining him in Charlotte 22
Its one matchup but yeah he completely outplayed him. 1
I mean Jamal Murray started his career 0/17 as well to be fair. 1
Theres unpopular and then there is just stupid 1
You guys are only up 4 wtf 34
So true. Also congrats on the win against Milwaukee. 4
which is why we kept the Lakers to one field goal in the last 5 minutes of the quarter 3
He had a decent season last year TBH. 2
How many where pick 1? 21
I mean they are playing similar to their career averages arent they? -1
We wouldnt even be comparing them if they werent both European 6
Wow 1
12 turnovers for Harden thought including a bunch late in the game 14
I mean what would you expect him to say in a post game interview after a game like this? 1
Thats dumb. Also confirms that Utah are getting green jerseys 1
No, you see so many players in the NBA that dont even get minutes and they where elite at a college level or similar. How on earth do you realistically expect there to be a female player making it to the NBA? The worst NBA players or the ones that co 25
With a simple "no" 10
It has to be Rose 1
0, also whats up with fake Warriors fans? People who make accounts trying to be Warriors fans but really just talk trash about them, its hoenstly embarrassing dude. 20
Lavine? 1
34 in a half. Thats crazy low. 1
Siakam 6
He has been on fire lately but Lebron still has more credits in the bank. 19
Yeah this game is kind of why I made the post. He hasnt accepted a single foul all game and is disputing everyone of them despite so many being obvious. 4
But he had a sick dunk on Giannis 0
That story is so last week 4
Wait when were they taken away? 3
lmao I see this stat mentioned all the time. 2
Who cares? 10
Probably win, you have 4 absolute certain hall of famers and another guy with 2 DPOYs and 2 finishes in the top 3 for MVP voting. 4
Peak, Lebron being the almost unanimous best player in the league for **at least** the past 7 seasons is something Duncan never had. 40
Im confused as to why he hasnt been diagnosed until now. 1
Yeah sounds realistic 2
Thats one way to put it 2
> The Phoenix Suns just scored **10 points** in the first quarter of an NBA game >They just lost the quarter 36-9. Hmmm 6
"and its not even close" 24
lmao thats pretty extreme. Youd be a pretty bad person for that to happen 2
Huh? You made the post lmao 2
We are making the playoffs 1
Exactly what im thinking of right now. This is insane 1
Why on earth did DLo take that 3 so early? 1
He plays on an edge 1
It uses the ESPN game score as opposed to the basketball reference one. 9
WE KNOW!!! 13
Cut him some slack, hes only been a Lakers fan for 2 months 6
Whatever dude, no one cares at all 1
This OP has some of the dumbest posts ive ever seen. 16
Repost! Oh wait! 8
Donovan Mitchell -1
Nah -1
Lmao MKG with finished 9th in DPOY voting that season in 2014-15. Yet he wins it because of the conference divide. Thats gonna be a no from me. 2
Cp3 was better overall but Deron Williams would out play Paul in their matchups if that makes sense. 27
At best 2
Yeah hed probably still be a flopping choker. 12
-1 2
Both Lakers 3
Please leave this mods 95
Holy shit 9
No it doesnt 1
They showed the replay and he went form left foot to right to left to right as his pivot foot. 2
Oh yeah his selfishness that played a major in 5 rings... that really hurt his team... 1
He should easily get the triple double. 1
Nah they outplayed us and deserved the win. Congrats to OKC -9
I will, you guys have completely outplayed us today. Really impressed with PG, Adams and Dennis. Good win. -4
Hmm thats interesting to think about, i know he used to go to half court after each free throw so that could make an impact for a player. 0
Id expect him to because he is one of the best players in the league but when its a third of the season its hard to call it just a slump. 0
I dont lol I literally just want to know what changed lmao. 2
I dont, just curious what changed in his free throw shooting. Russ is one of the leagues best players. 2
Toughen up man 11
I mean if he is moving teams next season than maybe he is trying to get Kyrie to join him. 1
Russ is not a shooter lmfao 1
If he actually won anything (like 5 rings) hed be Kobe. Russ has won 3 total playoff games as the number one guy. 2
Thats trash 3
lmao I foolishly though that there would be at least some semblance of a protest. 1
ahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahaha 3
2017 Warriors imo 22
This is hilarious 2
Has he really been that bad? 2
Lmao its ok bro. 11
They have been bricking sooo many threes in the 4th. 2
Stop trying to suck up to him lmao. This is such a lame attempted karma grab. Did you post this in /r/rockets as well? 14
People love revisionist history tbh. 6
Yeah it is, Bogdanovic flopped like a bitch, looking for the foul not even trying to make the shot. -7
He did the same against Gobert, stared him down when the Celtics were losing by 20 lol 1
Why not? 0
Shaqeem 10
My heart isnt 18
> Luka Doncic is a fine player but today he showed that he is a real man. Sorry but for some reason this made me laugh, like some sort of documentary statement. 15
People are idiots, you just have to move on. I dont think the mods can do anything about it. 2
For anyone interested in record setting and stuff I remember OKC shooting 14/15 from three to start a game against Utah in 2017 so I dont think the Clippers have set a record but its crazy accurate either way. 3
Harris was 6/6 from deep and missed the game winner :( 18
LMFAO, he has about 160 million reasons not to care at all. 0
And its wrong 12
Yeah its up there. Its funny that people hate Lebron less than KD and say that KD "ruined the league." Its funny because the only reason they say that about KD and not Lebron is because Brons superteam underachieved. 10
Its ok, I understand that people hate KD. My argument is that people would almost universally hate Lebron (like they do with KD) if he had achieved the success with his team that they should have. Because in the end people dont hate that KD purely b 1
I can see where you are coming from and thats a pretty good argument. The ring with Cleveland really did a lot to change his reputation and perception. I guess the biggest thing that irks me is when people try to discount KDs rings because his team a 4
Im open to discussing it if you present a counter argument. Your comment doesnt really add anything to the discussion. 3
and why didnt Lebron ruin the league by joining two other top 10 players? Because his team simply underachieved. 8
the whole point is the heat were beatable because they underachieved... 5
I think so and it was one of the dumbest missed calls in NBA history. 6
Counter point, and dont hate me for saying this, that play with Kobe and Bobby occurred at the end of the game. The Kings by that stage no longer had the lead, and when they were up 24 earlier in the game it should never have gotten to that stage. 4
The refs didnt make Houston miss 27 straight threes. Unfortunately thats all Rockets fans are going to have to live by because despite any reffing they completely shot themselves out of the game. -2
And???? The margin going from one to seven points is barely any issue at all for a regular season game in December. 0
lmao you arent even going to post a clip? 4
Yeah Im an idiot. -5
Thats whats a bit annoying. I make a post with concerns about a players progress from injury and dont get any legitimate answers simply because of my flair. -5
Its annoying , I might see how this post goes in /r/nbadiscussion. -3
Was probably accurate when the commercial was made and they arent going to always change it. 1
Im watching the game... 1
Also can the mods stop trying to delete every post? Its all a bit of fun, loosen up a bit lmao. 8
I had a science test at school during game seven of the 2016 finals so I missed the second half. 2
I personally cant fathom it simply because he isnt marketable enough in a way. Dont get me wrong he is an outstanding player and has a very strong case for top 10 in the league right now, he is leading his injured team to the leagues 3rd best record. 1
Id just play him for 2 minutes at the end of the fourth quarter each game, get a guaranteed 15 points in the clutch and trust your teams defence to take care of the rest. I think it would definitely be worth the 10% cap space if they could be used in 10
He was dominant defensively in those final 3 minutes 1
What do you specifically like about it? Personally I find their commentary to be really bland and lacking any excitement during highlight plays. 1
Those are strong contested rebounds as well. He also made a great play to find Okogie for 3. 1
That was a crazy last play. 1
This is a blatant lie by OP or just a poorly researched stat. Its happened 27 times before. Here is a list of all the times it has happened listed by the most recent occurrences: http://bkref.com/tiny/wICh1 |Rk|Player|Date|Tm|Opp|TRB|AST|PTS| |-:|:-|:- 36
Michael Redd did it. 6
I dont know what to do with this information. 2
I just want to let people know incase they arent watching the game. You dont want to miss out on a great performance because you didnt know there was a game on. 2
I know we arent meant to post in game updates but this is a great performance that deserves some recognition. 2
Does nobody else say 3 quarter time haha 1
Lemmie just go with the flow and say Kuzma. 1
This is insane! Is he going to get 50? 19
Reggie Miller ^^^^^^^^^^^^/s 2
According to my calculations thats not very good. 2
Boston mods. 4
Kyrie did it against OKC last year. Got fouled shooting a 3, made the shot, missed the free throw, got an offensive rebound, scored a layup. 22
Posts like these are how you spot bandwagon Warriors fans -2
Here we go lol, recency bias is quite a remarkable thing. 46
Nahhh, Dun, Lavine and Markannen look to be a good core going forward and they are building for the future. The Parker contract was a big mistake but I think overall they are building a good team going forward. 1
> No disrespect, but to be honest, I can’t imagine Jazz beat us.We’re so deep and young and hungry. **You don’t have any tools to defend Kuz & Ingram** > .Zo & Josh can shit Donovan Mitchell down.I’m not kidding. And Non-offensi 5
Damn reading these comments just shows how young most /r/NBA users are. 3
Lmao Im so confused. 1
Damn ill be honest with you OP I never even thought about it that way. Ive been leaning towards Giannis because his team is a top 2 seed but if Harden closes the gap than his team might still finish as the 4th seed in the West. You cant really hold that a 1
Ah yes because when I see Harden averaging 34/6/9 on 62.2% TS for the **season** then I think about how he hasnt been playing at a high level consistently... Heck, even before the Rockets turnaround when they started 11-14 Harden was averaging 30/6/8 10
Yeah hes been struggling badly but Id back him to bounce back. All players go through slumps. 2
How did he still manage to get 38 points lol 1
Why did the mods remove the last post like this? 6
He gets no calls, its ridiculous. 1
The Bulls have won 6 championships in their history, the greatest player of all time played for the team. They are definitely up there. 2
Is this based on your opinion or is there actually a way you measured this? 1
You guys deserve criticism for losing at home to the Cavs. Especially when your hyped young core play like trash. 16
lol xD epic shit post LMAO 0
This guy has one of the worst ego to talent ratios in the league 7
Just give him the MVP already 26
Trying to be funny 1
What happened to the last post? 1
Counterpoint: no he isnt 8
LeBron is most valuable but Kemba maybe as second. I cant imagine the Hornets winning 20 games without him. 1
What about the injuries to Curry in the playoffs? 15
Barely quietly. Weve been getting updates on this everyday for the past week. 1
Tim Duncan single handedly carried the 2003 Spurs to a championship. 6
No, you need to be elite from your rookie year if you want to even get close to top 5 11
24 points on 9/15 shooting in 26 minutes is really nice though. 3
Didnt even include team records in the title lol 2
Lead by 38 before our bench played out the final 18 minutes. 2
He wasnt. He was top 3 or 5 but a turnover machine that would rather complain to the refs than get back on defence isnt the leagues best center. You can talk about the distinctional Kings but even in New Orleans the team played better without him. 0
Really unlikely. I think they went 18/18 and shoot 68.7% from free throws as a team. The odds of them making all 18 is just ~~1.2%~~ 0.12% 4
My bad. 1
1.8% not 0.18% 0
Or how dumb KCP is. 4
Ok, nobody really cares tho. 6
Lakers should have not fouled they were all legit calls. 27
Wrong title. Didnt get the score right. 1
Stop complaining. You are witnessing history. 7
Give me Giannis and Harden 3
Low-key FMVP if Ray Allen never hit that 3 in game 6 0
Are you saying Rose is the 26th best player in the league? lol 8
Get lost -1
A 10x all star or a 1x all star? 1
Lame 1
Lol Id happily take him. Can you imagine how explosive a Mitchell/Westbrook back court would be omg. 8
Id use those bricks to make a building to store all the championship trophies we would win. 8
Everybody eats. 0
I feel like hes had 4 or 5 games that just completely inflated his average. His best games are soooo good they just completely make up for any extended slump. 6
BHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHA Dude you totally overrate him. DPOY and 12 assists per game omg. 2
Yep and lost 17 of 20. 3
Thats woeful for anyone but especially for a center. 3
Its pretty close to an unspoken rule especially of the team is as successful as the Pacers have been. -16
Russ was the exclamation point on an amazing MVP season. 12
Show the same stats, stop being biased. 4
Just show it all for proper context. 2
Harden by far. T-Mac is immensely over-rated. 4
> Tmac. > In the post season. Does not compute. 3
Higher than now 20
He played 2 seconds in his debut game today against the Knicks making 1 free throw. 2
He played 2 seconds in his debut game today against the Knicks making 1 free throw. 8
Ive been very impressed by his game. I hope him and Rudy both make the all star game. 6
Thabo Sefolosha 2
Nope 1
Lmfao 4
> Why is there always a post saying that he has never attempted one. That simply isnt true. Sure its more of a technicality because **they are all half court heaves** but people need to stop saying "this is his first three point attempt" 1
Ill give him respect. He played well all game, made the right plays and his off-ball defence on Curry was great. 3
Suprised Ingram doesnt have the record. 1
1) Paul George, thats all 45
How about defensively at least? Which other duos that have existed would surpass them? 2
A Simmons for AD trade is the blockbuster I want to see 2
Rubio, Thabo, Exum and a first.... Surely the Pels cant say no.... 1
Absolutely, Exum is going to be the next Penny Hardaway. Thabo will win DPOY. Ricky is basically Spanish Stephen Curry. Tatum is only 12 years old, Browns only notable feature is his flat top. Lonzo is just trash and Kuzma wears fur coats. 3
Ostertag was pretty good 2
They had a useless team built around them and Cousins is the biggest cancer/empty stats player. -3
Really well summed up and thanks for the reply. Its definitely just pure speculation but you put things in perspective really well. 1
I vote yes 8
He staynt 4
Lol 24
I think theyve done a really good job with enforcing quality highlights tbh. 14
Hey a dunks pretty good though. Getting his athleticism back. 1
Another break? Thats just cruel man 8
Appreciation granted 1
Lol 2
They arent already? 1
No 2
Hell replace dipo 6
Lol 1
I know he was on fire but that was such a dumb shot 7
Go clips! 0
Surprised it wasnt I over turned 1
You really going to leave Embiid and Gobert out of the top 5 centres.... 27
If you want advanced stats look at Goberts - 1st in win shares. - 1st in effective field goal percentage. - 1st in defensive win shares. - 1st in defensive box plus minus. - 2nd in true shooting percentage. - 2nd in offensive rating. 1
Idgaf, Trae Young will be better than Luka 21
Has a team ever played more than 8 consecutive games on the road? -2
Jokic 1
Lol 3
Hes in his second season and was pick 30 4
When you look at the players award he is a 2x MVP. 1
Cant believe Klay got in over Bayless 22
I can never ever ever imagine Russell Westbrook on another team. 0
I hate that people blame Melo for this. He was the star player on the team, Lin was just some random player on a hot streak. Melo did absolutely nothing wrong. 8
Say it louder for the people at the back 7
Yes 1
Oh shit I remember that 12
/thread 2
Nope 2
Hope so 4
Your mother 2
Your mum and your dad 3
Yes, for Nick -2
Itll get leaked anyway 14
Nope it was built around him 2
A broken leg didnt help him much. From Utahs perspective its a miracle we were able to draft Mitchell or this team would be in a deep rebuild. Its more a testament to Mitchell than knock on Hayward 1
Hes just in a really big full season slump 1
Trash, nobody has ever wanted to join him. He joined Wades team but Kevin Love is the best player thats been moved, wanting to play on the same team as LeBron. -12
I didnt say anything about Utah, I know we arent a destination team. I was just answering the question in the thread. The fact that you had to use my flair as a response is pretty poor. Play the argument not the person. 0
lmao chill dude. Why are you getting so defensive. 1
Rockets have the edge on us from a matchup perspective. 10-3 in their last 13 games against us. 17
A 5x Allstar isnt a role player 4
2017-18 Joe Ingles 0
Yeah, been a top two MVP candidate for 4 of the last 5 seasons 1
Ill admit I dont know what it means but its a big word so it will get clicks lmao 57
Happy for you guys. 0
Efficiency bro 16
Lol, spoken like a true hater 7
You thought you were being funny didnt you? 11
He had 20 with 2:30 left, he then scored 11 points in 100 seconds to keep the streak alive. 63
Nobody being the DPOY, 6th man and COTY... 2
> You will never convince me that Iverson was not the reason they were so good that year. It’s crazy to me that you would even try to make that argument to be honest. Im definitely not disputing the fact that he deserved it. Im disagreeing with yo 0
Are you talking about putting backspin on a jump shot? 5
Shouldve been an all-star over Lowry 4
lol Suns 3
How dare you disrespect the Knicks. They are currently on a 1 game win streak. 1
Hes been injured for a 2 games in this 15 game losing streak but Im really interested to see how Booker would play on a good team. In this stretch (13 games) Booker has averaged 24/4/6 on 48/32/86 shooting. 2
Nope 1
Its casual basketball, idm. 1
take my FUCKING UPVOTE YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNT. HERE, HAVE MY STUPID FUCKING ORANGE ARROW YOU SON OF A BITCH TAKE THIS STUPID FUCKING KARMA YOU STUPID ASSHOLE AND NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A CHAINSAW. I LAUGHED SO FUCKING HARD AT YOUR "ORIGINAL" COMMENT T 15
No 2
Below a 44 win team as well smh 3
Just reread your post and I dont know how you can say that LeBron should have won the championship in 2015. The Cavs were without their 2nd and 3rd options. Im not a LeBron fan but its crazy to hold that finals loss against him given the circumstance 4
2011: JJ Barea locked down LeBron. Complete choke job from LeBron so they should have won. There really arent any excuses for them to not win that. 2014: Wade and Bosh completely underperformed. While James put up 28ppg on 67% TS then Wade averag 3
Listening to the ref. They cant change the score until an official review. 2
4 points, LeBron had his foot in the line on a three. 1
Lakers are about to lose 4 points from the score lol 1
I was having a discussion the other day about MVP voting and what actually is the criteria for MVP. The best way I could think of it was its awarded to "The best player on the best team" Based on this I reckon that could be a pretty accurate way to s 2
OP if something happens Im blaming you 2
What are some painless suicide methods? 3
Its usually pretty reliable. The only thing you might want to consider is that the league shortened the three point line from 1994 to 1997. 3
1 game, they beat the league worst Knicks today 3
Lmao, that title 1
You can definitely make a case for any of Fox, Lauri, Collins, Mitchell and Tatum. 9
Id definitely put Magic, Russell or Wilt before Hakeem. Hakeem is 10-12 range imo. -1
Why would anyone call him Big Honey? Thats one of the worst nicknames Ive heard in a while. 1
I have a love hate relationship with this subreddit 1
Its fun tho 4
Lmao that was the first thing I thought of when I saw his shot. 6
They had us in the first half not gonna lie 23
No chance 6
What do the Hornets have? No championships, No conference championships, no division titles. Do they have any retired numbers? 7
121 points, 34 steals, 16 threes. 8
Offseason trades and free agency are the most exciting part of the NBA imo. 3
Ego problems 4
Fined and suspended by the team 2
OP is only 13! 9
Wtf is your username? 8
I hope he gets back to his best but I agree. Hayward has only had 4 games this season with at least 20 points so he definitely isnt back just yet. Needs to string together some consistent form. 1
>Please let me know why or why not you think this is accurate in at least 100 characters because if the moderators force me to reach that minimum, so should you Are you ok? 4
Fucking lol 23
Lou Williams gave the Clippers the game 45
Lmao bro. Its a ~~meaningless~~ regular season game. Onto the next one, dont worry. EDIT -6
Warriors, Raptors, Celtics, 76ers. This stretch is a massive boost to Hardens MVP chances. 27
Endurance is kind of underrated in basketball. People always talk about efficiency and adjusting for possession of minutes but its a skill in itself to be able to play at a high level while maintaining a high work load. Players dont necessarily 17
Thats another reason why I dont like people bashing Iverson for efficiency. He had all the defence focused on him and he still was able to average 27 PPG in his career. 17
He just said trade him for young assets and free up cap space to target free agents like Durant lmao. 1
Its actually hilarious. He was dead serious about it to! 2
Put the game on TV, increase the volume and close your eyes. 3
People have the memory of a goldfish apparently. 4
Lmao checkmate Bucks fans 3
lmao Bucks fans are desperately trying to set things straight and say its the refs fault. https://imgur.com/7B1VQO5 -1
I know the ref admitted it. Its just funny how you guys were so quick to focus on the fact that Giannis wasnt at fault compared to the fact that it was a funny play. -6
Yeah and you guys are making sure everyone knows it isnt Giannis fault https://imgur.com/7B1VQO5 -6
Ill try my best to help you and continue to edit this comment. ----- **General Important Notes** - The Golden State Warriors and Cleveland Cavaliers played each other in the finals in **FOUR** consecutive seasons. The Warriors won 3 champio 4
Thanks OP. Very cool 20
Yep. Dont know why you were downvoted for an honest question. In his last 10 games prior to tonight he was averaging 27ppg but on 39/29/86 shooting. More specifically the slump was a 6 game stretch in the middle of that where he averaged 21 on 11
I Think He Does Care About His Team 2
Jokic deserves recognition. Id move him into the second team over Gobert. 5
Completely unbiased. Karl Malone, at their peak both players won an MVP over Michael Jordan but I think Malones longivety gives him the advantage. 12
Of all players to leave wide open to. Bertans is shooting 45.0% from deep (2nd in the league) 23
Thats impressive to say the least. Conley has been terrific especially post all star break and Jonas is kinda underrated. 2
Bye bye Donovan 1
Depends on matchup in my opinion. Weve been in a brilliant extended run of form lately winning 22 of our last 30. 2
Terry Rozier is so fucking dumb 11
Yes, honestly I dont know how nobody else has thought of this before. 1
WTF?!?!!!? 10
Nope 1
The question asks about iso scoring but for overall scoring Carmelo was amazing. Carmelo averaged 24 PPG for his career. While Joe Johnson (who played for 17 seasons) had one season averaging over 22. 8
They do sometimes. Depends on the timeout situation as well though. If the team down 3 doesnt have timeouts left they will often foul intentionally otherwise you trust your defence. 3
Get lost 4
They were a 67 win team that lead the league in defensive rating and averaged the most points per game lead by the reigning MVP. But ok, disrespect it if you want... 14
Technically you can have a TS% over 100000 if you get enough free throws. 1
A lot of people say he is an empty stats guy. I wont lie I was one of those people but like OP said hes only 22 and carrying the load. What more can he possibly do? 4
Conference record is the tiebreaker which we easily have over Sacramento. -1
Tiebreaker rules I think 1
Lmao I got too excited. 6
Cheers! 1
Nice try we are all 12 years old on /r/nba 1
Or is it division record since we are both Northwest teams? 1
I think it would be The Jazz. That game against the Clippers is our 3rd match up of the season and we won the first two games. We lead the series 2-0 so LA cant win it. 1
Oh whoops haha. Ill delete this 1
Ill be a man and admit it. I was completely wrong. The Bucks have totally exceeded my expectations and Im really happy for the team and the fans. Id love to see Giannis win MVP! Well done Milwaukee. 6
I dont know why you guys arent getting more hype for the improvement this season like Brooklyn and Sacramento were getting. 5
Blake Griffin of all people with 9 threes! I need to be watching 2
He is 1/5 with 2 points. 2
Thanks for the reply. Just trying to get a better understanding if this is normal play for him. Really appreciate your response. 1
Joe Ingles dunk highlights to Gangstas Paradise 2
Why not? 2
Gobert played soooo awfully today. McGee dominated 0
this meme is lit XD 5
> great basketball player. Well thats an understatement and a half 10
Yes. They would rather play Utah than OKC 37
Im so sad. The Kings were up 26. The Nuggets were up 11 in the fourth. I dont want to play Houston :( 35
As am I 11
and absolutely not thank you Sacramento 9
I am gutted 3
Finally someone that hasnt predicted Houston in 5. 3
Itll be a real test for us. Even if we dont win I hope we can be really competitive. 2
Where did this idea come from that Jordan played easier teams? - In 1991 the MVP was Michael Jordan, he beat the runner up for the MVP Magic Johnson in the NBA Finals. He defeated a 58 win Lakers team. - In 1992 the MVP was Michael Jordan, he beat 1
Tier 1: Giannis, Embiid, Jokic, KAT. Tier 2: Simmons, Mitchell, Booker, Doncic. Tier 3: Fox, Young, Tatum. Its really hard to rank them but this is my best attempt. 1
I decided to change it and put Booker in tier 2 but how can you say that none of them are better than him? 1
I think they are similar defensively but the 76ers would be better with Conley. It would allow them to mix things up a bit more offensively with Conley capable of providing strong shooting from anywhere on the floor. That said this a hypothetical for 8
Also OP, get off my lawn 2
Typical, thats just playoff Lowry -4
Absolutely, even Raptors fans were saying he probably deserved to be an all star over Lowry. 3
DeMar Derozan and choking in the playoffs 4
Go tell me about how he averaged 17ppg in the playoffs last year Raptors fans. Lowry has absolutely no history of choking am I right? 3
bUt meH pLUs mINuS 6
That was fucking hilarious 20
League fucked 22
No one thinks the series is done but the teams deserve criticism for their poor games. 5
Bro Derrick White just killed Millsap 46
With the NBA Playoffs starting I thought it would be fun to keep track of the key moments of the day in maybe a daily post. What moments did I miss that you think should be included? 1
Literally unplayable in the playoffs.. 19
Im blown away man, this is just super impressive to watch. Like in a way I cant even be mad because he is just so much better than us and its cool seeing an all time great do their thing. 16
Hes still winning by 15 tho. He might be missing but his passing has really thrown the Jazz defence around with those lobs to Capella and cuts by Faried. 34
Hes still contributed massively to his teams big lead. Hard to fault him. 25
Probably because hes a second year guard thats leading a 50 win team in scoring. He definitely has short comings but you can over look them often because of the fact that he is so far ahead of where he should be at this stage of his career. Today de 13
Sidenote, do you think in an open market Ben Simmons gets a max contract right now? I think he would despite his shortcomings in shooting so maybe thats why doesnt feel he needs it. Hes already a top 25 player in the league without one. 0
The actual reason is that mods dont like mid game stat posts. People used to always spam when someone had a good first quarter and all that so its just easier to make a clear cut rule. 24
Mods made a rule a while ago about not posting stats until the end of the game. They do it for everyone. 7
He also plays dirty and injures players with his reckless play. 19
Gobert, Giannis, Turner, George and Embiid are all top 5 in my opinion. This season I dont think he would really get many votes for DPOY. In terms of making an all-nba team, at the point guard position, I think Bledsoe and Holiday deserve it more tha 6
Soooo funny... how did you come up with this? 8
His intensity has been really good so far defensively had an early steal on Isaac and forced a jump ball. Hes definitely looking for redemption. 1
The defence as well tho. Hes been forcing jump balls, getting steals against renters, just overall playing a much better game and hes being aggressive. 20
It really depends on what your team needs and who the support cast is. They all player the center position but they all have different styles of play. 4
Nobody believed that 8
Easily Tampa. That was the equivalent of the 73 win Warriors getting swept in the first round. Its pretty much the greatest playoff series choke in professional sports history. 38
Its a big deal because Tampa had the greatest regular season ever and were swept. Its not like they were just an *average* 1 seed that lost in seven games. 4
Bro he also found a way to misspell Michael 4
Isnt this the Daniel House copypasta from yesterday? 2
Jamal Murray 9
Logo Lillard 15
They arent making it to the WCF 25
He has absolutely been **the** least efficient star this season He is one of the least efficient stars in HISTORY 72
Completely opposite to game 1 2
They only did it because there was contract to the head potentially making it a flagrant 3
lol 13
I dont. Steph is 8th all time in playoff points per game averaging 26 per game on shooting splits of 45/41/89. He averages more playoff points per game than Kobe, Hakeem and Dirk too 20
Ok respect, now what? 11
Were so fucking not amazing 1
I thought wed at least be competitive 9
Id actually say that this season shooting is only Ingles third best trait. His playmaking and defence have been better. Hes been awful today but overall for the whole season thats how it stands. 10
I mean you can make an argument for both of them but I value efficiency a lot more than raw numbers 4
There are lots of reasons to say that Nash is better than Russ but your argument is way out of line. Nash was an awful defender 4
> there still doesnt seem to be a consensus answer as to who should win Ive seen a vast majority of voters say Giannis. He lead his team to the best record in the league and while also having a great offensive season he played at a DPOY level def 13
God we have some stupid ass fans 2
Nope, not yet at least 17
Watch the mods remove this 3
I wish they gave out an award for that, hed have my vote 4
[Here you go!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqjGrkdIyJ4) 2
lmao probably, even if he leaves a championship is a huge achievement 12
Most improved by far, Ive loved what DAngelo Russell has been able to do but Siakam is more deserving. 3
Delete this 9
[Never forget this moment by Ray](https://twitter.com/angrymantv/status/654745279262945280?lang=en) 6
I feel like this gets posted every month lol 4
Imagine a Dame and Mitchell backcourt omg 8
This is something I cling to ahha https://imgur.com/9eCXDN6 0
I reckon you could make an argument that Duncans 03 playoffs run was more impressive than any players in NBA history. 13
I feel so bad for Joe Harris, lead the league in 3pt % and now in the playoffs hes 3/16 from deep 5
I wish it was, Nets battled hard 3
I’m so heated right now. How the hell is that not a foul on Harden on the Mitchell drive? -2
Better 8
Holy shit I think you might be on to something 11
Weve been getting some lucky whistles since Quin got a tech. Is this what it feels like to be a Rockets fan? 16
I agree 5
and Rockets are winning 8
Can we not do this :( 1
I think thats actually a fair comparison in terms of the build. We arent as good as the team for sure but it is a similar archetype. 2
Nah we are definitely not the Grit and Grind Grizz. Very weak comparison just because of our defence. 1
You really couldnt wait for the game to end first? 8
Its a fake account to make warriors fans look bad. 49
Its far from over 14
You know what youre doing 32
I think Larry Bird, Jerry West and Steven Nash were classier 10
Ricky even banked one in lmao 6
Didnt really work. Rubios been defending it a lot better. 4
He’s heating up all of a sudden this quarter tho! 26
Beggars cant be choosers. I dont know how many free agents would sign with Utah (not many would) so while I dont really like Westbrooks playstyle I would definitely accept a top 15 player. 6
Dame got tripped by Schroder and they gave OKC the ball ffs 30
They just want to extend the series but Lillard isnt letting them. 2
Holy shit, that really puts it into perspective 7
What do you personally disagree with? 0
Is there anyone you would disagree with? 3
Thanks dude! 1
I hope when he hits his first career three its in a similar way to the one Livingston hit against Phoenix 1
Harden has been the number one option on a team thats made the conference final multiple times. 22
Jeez -1
/r/nbacirclejerk -1
We made our whole game plan around defending him 13
Yeah that was a super impressive play by Clint 12
Theyre a local broadcast. Its too be expected 28
And a series win in 5 games because he still makes big plays like his steal on Gobert. 16
Andrew Bogut, Aussie basketball legend 3
Cry more 16
Yeah they are. He has 4 offensive rebounds so far. 3
Flair up loser 19
Exactly, he wasnt just a passenger who took a back seat. He was the best player in both those finals. 7
Yes. They still have a top 5 player in the league, another all star and a defensive monster. 2
He has career averages of 14/2/3 on 55% TS. Thats extremely average, he doesnt have a lot of playoff success either so I dont understand how he could even be in the conversation for potentially being a hall of famer. 8
Kawhi wanted out and they got an all star in return. They did fine in the trade given the situation. 24
He had a nice dunk at least... 7
Tracy McGrady has him beat tho. At least DeMar was able to get out of the first round. 2
What do you expect? Its a home game 7 ffs 15
LaMarcus Aldridge is a fucking dumb ass 60
Westbrook not skilled??? You are insane dude. 4
Theyre both really bad calls. This thread is a joke. 0
I hate questions like this. -3
These all time greats would have all worked extremely hard to be the best they could be. In doing so they were better at a particular skill than 99.9999999% of the people in the world. For that reason it seems kind of disrespectful 3
Houston are lame af for that. The 18.6 points that they claim they missed out on is a complete joke as well. 1
Is not a top 15 player 5
Not the best time to post this. 14
Ok 10
Let me over-react and tell people not to over-react 3
You dont give a max to a guy coming straight of an ACL injury. At least wait till he plays. 1
I dont care where he is from. He made a dirty intentional play behind the play, and thats pretty Un-Australian. -2
Nah, thats the Wizards in 2016-2017 9
haha I noticed that too 12
Shut up 10
Bro what on earth was Curry doing? He didn’t contest and just walked away from Rivers on that three point attempt. 3
Theres no debate its JRs blunder. ----- The Warriors most likely dont win even if Curry makes the dunk. The Warriors also still have a 2-1 lead in a second round match up and are in control of the series. The Cavaliers could have won g 26
Derrick Rose, some people think two/three all-nba calibre seasons is hall of fame worthy. -8
Do you need to ask that? Lowry is also a flopper, some players are just like that. 20
>Why the blind hate ? Because Lowry has a history of flopping 4
bruh 6
Oh boy 4
Why does Vanvleet still get minutes? 2
Jimmy was the only guy who showed up 20
Comparing a sophomore to a 5x all star. People expect more from Lowry. Simmons is still a young player that has lead his team this far this season. 0
Yeah its not what I expect from him but he was contributing in other ways. I feel like Harris going 2/13 from three and 7/23 overall is what lost you the game. He missed some really open threes as well. 7
Ben Wallace 6
Dont disrespect AI like that 13
I got my post removed for posting something along those lines. https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/blkkda/kyrie_im_an_actual_genius_irving_finishes_game_4/ 2
Dante Exum, got to maintain the Aussie quota 12
STOP ALWAYS POSTING THIS 15
Yep, an offensive rebound, field goal attempt and a field goal make. 6
Didnt Denver also try to injure Steph Curry in the 2013 playoffs? 7
Theyre vulnerable but they still have 3 all stars including a 2x MVP 8
Hes missed some really easy shots too and hasnt been making the right passes. Its strange 3
Was he wrong? A 5x all star with 3 championships and one of the greatest 3 point shooters in history is an absolute hall of fame lock. 63
Not at all lol, he only shot 33.3% from three during the regular season. EDIT: He is 20/47 from three these playoffs at 43% 24
Ugh dont remind me. Joe had an absolutely awful playoffs :( 3
Yeah im sick of it. Was expecting a massive game from him but hes disappeared. 50
Apart from the horrendous Capela box against Draymond theyve all been the right call imo 10
Toronto win 104-93. Kawhis game MVP with 37 points. 6
If Westbrook was playing this game he would have demanded the ball instead of letting CJ take the last shot, regardless of the dominance CJ showed in this game. He did it with PG, and in the past he did it with Durant. 9
CJ if you need a first option, Klay if you need a second option 2
No because im not a bitch 15
It was pretty good, feel like it might get forgotten because they werent big name teams but I enjoyed it. 4
Rules dont allow it 21
Michael Jordan is like Kawhi 5
Against the team with the best home record in the NBA as well 3
Shut your dumb mouth 25
I still cant believe we didnt trade Exum while we had the chance ffs 8
Theyve had pick 4, pick 4 and pick 1 too before this year. They just decided to draft guys like Jackson and Bender 22
He has never polled an MVP vote. Ty Lawson, David Lee and Goran Dragic have more career MVP votes. He is not a superstar, the only superstars in the league (in no order) are Lebron, Harden, Durant, Giannis, Curry and Kawhi. 26
Im with you there, wouldnt the Utah Zions sound so much better? 4
Even if its a one year rental can you imagine Donovan Mitchell and then a front court of Davis and Gobert? Opposition teams wouldnt score 90 ppg. 1
I do wish 5
Exactly, perfect opportunity to sell a couple jerseys and rebrand. 1
Great idea isnt it? 1
You can have him 2
Suns, imagine winning 19 games and picking outside the top 5. That said theyve been in the lotto in 9 of the past 10 years, really its their own fault that they havent built a competent team by now. They shouldnt be in a position for this to happen t 24
You guys all suck, let the pelicans enjoy this. 14
No 2
Tried too hard to draw the shooting foul instead of just shooting naturally in the fourth quarter. 27
Thats cool, if only we could see what their parents reactions were like. 22
He isnt but someone just posted he has more turnovers than field goals this series which is insane! 10
Lmao that deep three attempt 1
Ok 3
No they arent 26
Thats because an MVP wasnt the reason they made it. It was just another part of an already Insane career. 5
People can have their own opinions 28
Then they should have won game 7 10
Im a big Steph fan but Kyrie was injured in 2015 and then outplayed Steph comprehensively in 2016. 2
Didnt you hear op? Bud is horrendous defensively 12
Raps arent really good at threes 7
He gets fouled a lot 43
Nothing 6
Ignore him. He said the Bucks were horrendous defensively earlier today. 6
Powell tho, playoff Norm is stepping up. 30
This fucking subreddit 22
Yep, global ambassador or something 10
Championship or at least take the Warriors to 7 1
True, Ill edit 1
Thanks op, very cool 16
Yeah I might repost it a little later actually. Glad you liked the post. 2
Thanks for that, Ive always been interested in how those series go. 1
I dont understand how OKC, a team with two top 15 players, finished as the 6th seed and only won one playoff game. 9
He also lead the league in travels and offensive fouls. So he does get the calls but it feels like it should happen more often. 26
Nice -1
Gordon Hayward and his wife literally donated money to Trumps campaign. [Source](https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Robyn+Hayward), Im definitely going to shame someone who supports Trump. 6
KD is still to come back 7
Theyre doing it on /r/nbaseasonsimulator. Its too late for people to join but you can watch it with interest and see what trades and free agency decisions are made. 0
5-0 the foul count so far in the second term, 6 minutes into the second quarter. 27
In terms of the audience, way too soft because all the fans want to complain about Drake 1
This is an NBA subreddit 7
Because its a foul, the defender shouldnt be reaching in. 37
Theyve won 3 of the last 4 championships 0
yes 2
Nope, 2015 Cavs with Lebron benched were just awful. 8
Celtics fans are so in denial too 10
And then Draymond got away with a blocking foul. These refs have been awful for both teams. 4
Yeah that was obvious af 7
> He flops a lot to protect himself. Can you imagine people saying this bs about Harden? 7
That foul they called at half court when Curry bumped into Lowry and acted like he was shooting was so dumb smh -1
Yep, and I dont like when they do that either. 1
Ive never seen people fault him for 2015. A lot of the criticism about his 3-6 record in the finals is losses to the Mavs in 2011 and the Spurs in 2014. In 2014 his stats were significantly padded when the margin was out of reach and Kawhi definitely 4
Nope, literally nobody was saying that before the teams were announced 8
Get lost 6
They wouldnt make it past the second round 14
Thanks captain obvious 3
Not even remotely similar, Kawhi draws contact in the paint while taking heavily contested shots on drives. Harden falls over on jump shots. 21
Shut up 0
Hes been good 4
Have you only been watching basketball for 3 years? The worst was 2015 when the Cavs second best player was Delly 13
Ok 3
Here we go again 2
Thanks reddit doctor 4
He won 2015 MVP and 67 games as the lead star 26
Thats pretty reasonable, the Lakers only have six players contracted for next season so we still have to see how they fill out their roster. -1
He averaged 41ppg in the finals against the Suns and then just retired lol 1
Reminder, this has been posted every day for the last week 11
Oh sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant that the trio of non all-stars actually played together on the same team. 14
DAE think the award show should be before playoffs??? Upvotes to the left please for my brave opinion 46
Preach 13
People are hating OP but hes saying the truth. Sager was a pos. 7
Sager was a pos. As /u/dionwaiteress said the NBA shouldnt have an award in his name. -1
Stop trying to make yoffs happen, its not going to happen 14
I actually remember reading an archived article where people said Amare was really the better player than Nash. Ill try and find it but its interesting to see that Nashs MVP season was controversial at the time too. I know its not everything but Amar 2
For sure, that season after his first MVP really quietened a lot of the doubters. If anyone is still interested this is the link to the article previewing the 2005 MVP. Source: http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/050408&num=0 2
Now look at WL record and the injury issues. In 2005-06 the season Nash won his second MVP and Kobe avearged 35.4 than Kobe Bryant didnt even come top 3 in voting. The other season Dirk won it and Kobe only had 2 first place votes out of a possi 11
What Karl Malone did was unforgivable and disgusting but I feel like a bit of context is needed. He was 19 in a backwards Louisiana country town with a population of only about 300 people. Everyone knew each other in that town and Malone was pretty m 35
Completely and utterly agree. 6
Vince has recently played with the Kings and Hawks. He is pretty far from being a ring chaser smh 3
Im the biggest Paul hater in the world but hes still a contributing player. Hes on a bad contract but it doesnt necessarily mean hes a useless player. 2
Lmao why is Pierce here? The 19-20 trio would be much better. 6
They kinda did tho. All their free agent contracts have team options for next season except for Randle. They actually made good of a bad situation and look like they have a plan now going forward. 3
You act like Malone didnt win MVP at 36 years old, this whole list is just trying to undersell Jordans accomplishments. The Magic Johnson he beat in 1991 was also the MVP runner up that season. Clyde in 1992 was 2nd in MVP voting too. 11
But seriously the answer is No. Those guys each have more MVPs than Kawhi has all-star appearances. 10
No 5
Give him time, and he will be fine and grow into his role. Trae Young looked absolutely awful to start the summer league and played very well this season. 10
Theyve got an extremely young team so youd expect a lot of their players to continue to improve. I dont even think they need to make a move, theyre a deep squad that will naturally get better and I think theyll be a top four seed this season without 1
Youre really going to only include Hardens 6 turnovers? How about his 35 points, 8 rebounds and 4 steals? What a ridiculous post. 27
They dont lol. Theyre showing some improvement but there is no way they make the playoffs in the Western Conference. 9
Exactly, this isnt the East where you can make the playoffs with 38 wins. Last years 8th seed in the West won 48 games. Rubio, Saric, Kaminsky and a sophomore Ayton arent going to make the Suns win 30 more games. A pass mark for Phoenix this season w 5
NO!!! Kawhi is a 3x All-star. Nash won 2 MVPs and also finished runner up in 2007. Nash is way higher than Kawhi in an all-time ranking list. 5
Cool. Its still Nash. 5
Im just going to piggyback onto your comment and post a link to a screenshot of the post I took before it was deleted. https://imgur.com/a/ilXDj4X 5
Theyre trying to hide the truth. They knew it would go to the front page. This subreddit has some completely incompetent moderators. 13
Im proud of you buddy. Ill remember you. 6
The instagram story he initially posted was from a year ago and in reference to Tracy McGrady. A Chinese businessman set up to frame Mitchell after he didnt have time to sign stuff at his shop. 7
I think itll be between them, Clippers and Lakers that will fight it out for the number one seed. 1
And thats a fact. Hes been top 2 in MVP voting four times. Hes also been top 2 in scoring five times. Hes been absolutely amazing in the last five years but people still rank guys like Giannis and Kawhi ahead of him. I genuinely believe he has 1
Exactly. He averaged 35/7/6 with 2.2 steals per game on 60% TS In the series against the Warriors. He just didnt get the luxury of playing with KD and two other All-stars. For reference Curry averaged 24/5/5 on 40/28/90 shooting splits that series. 2
Its a shame as well because I believe the Rockets would have won the East over Toronto and Milwaukee. From there they would have played an injured Warriors team for a full series. Unfortunately for them thats just the way it works and they dont have 1
Capela is 24 and just averaged 17/13 on 65% shooting this past season. People need to stop acting like hes a negative asset because of a bad playoff series against the Warriors. 34
What a hilarious post OP. You are truly a great comedian. 2
No good can come from this post. 9
Id rather not think about this. 3
Simmons. Giannis is already close to being unstoppable and shoots threes occasionally. Ben doesnt even have any semblance of a jump shot so it would be a huge upgrade for him. 23
Ummm I dont think you know what youre talking about. Garnett (15) only has over twice as many all-star selections as Westbrook (7) 2
No. Just no. Please delete this post. 27
Not by any stretch of the imagination. People forget that Ingles got all defence team votes this season. Hes a bloody good defender and really underrated in that regard. 2
Ive seen it. Its more in the sense that people question his ability to defend and be a rim protector. The Lakers have AD but the Clippers biggest weakness right now is interior defence. Its not so much hate but people question how far the Clippers c 1
The way I see it is that nobody thought Bennet shouldve been drafted with pick one. He is a bust too but nobody thought he would be a number one overall talent. However Markelle was a consensus number one pick by everyone. From that perspective F 5
Thats bait 10
More like Durant. KAT cant create his own three point shot like that off the dribble. 1
Credit to u/lakerswiz. Ive honestly always thought that people over-emphasised how bad the reffing was because the Lakers had won the past 2 championships and people wanted something different. 8
||West|East| :--|:--|:--| |1st|Houston|Sixers| |2nd|Clippers|Bucks| |3rd|Lakers|Raptors| |4th|Utah|Pacers| |5th|Denver|Boston| 6
Thats pretty reasonable, chemistry between their star backcourt duo could definitely effect things. For me the fact that Harden and Westbrook rarely miss games is enough to rank them that high. I feel like Russ will play more off ball as well and ac 3
Prime Bird are you fucking kidding me??? Prime Bird won three straight MVPs. Larry Bird was also top two in voting from his sophomore season till his eight season. He finished 4th in his rookie year. 9
Its tough choosing between two of my least favourite players but Id pick Booker. -1
Its not the best way to do it but I used basketball references "player shot finder" to see which players made the most field goals in the first 5 minutes of a game. I used the first 5 minutes since the last 5 minutes of the fourth quarter is usually 2
Thats not what this means. Thats not what any of this means. 7
Cringe 6
The team I dont like. But dont sleep on the team that I do like. 4
Jordan won the scoring title 10 times in 11 full seasons with the Bulls. The seasons where he didnt were: - his sophomore season playing under 20 games due to a foot injury. - 1995 when he played under 20 games due to baseball. The only 16
When are you going to get banned for all these bullshit spam posts? 5
Imagine worrying about a 14 year old being overrated. Some of you guys need a life man. Just let the kid ball out. 16
Delete this please, its the worst list Ive ever seen for so many reasons. 35
LeBron, AD, 1988 Jordan, Olympic Melo and Wilt combined 43
Ugh its Utah fans isnt it? We had the Westbrook incident last season and a couple seasons ago some dumbass tried to shine a Lazer pointer at James Harden. Weve even had a fan bring their own whistle to the game and blow it mid game which led to some 2
Dont be a sore winner bro. 13
Donovan Mitchell is carrying them hard. He has 26 points so far, nobody else on team USA has half as much. 8
Karma whore 1
Thats just not feasible bro. The NBA would lose so much more money from games and ticket sales and thats just the absolute basic level of it. Going from 82 games to 58 is almost losing a third of all revenue generated from games. Your suggest 3
Kevin Durant was 2nd in MVP voting in 2010 when he was only 21 years old. Hes been elite for the entire decade where as Curry has only been at an elite level since 2014. Its arguable because Curry is a 2x MVP and was a dominant player on one of the g 2
You want gold dont you? 2
He got poked in the eye, by Davis or Rondo, and sat out the rest of the game just to be safe 3
If you were to survey /r/utahjazz than 90% would say that Gobert our best player. The reason the insta poll is like that is probably because its easier to see Mitchell highlights than Gobert highlights so he seems better. In reality we all know Rudy 3
Russ is the worst good player in NBA history. 17
Subscribe 1
I take it youre new to the sub? The Celtics mods always remove those posts. Its pathetic. 28
Hit two super clutch shots late in OT tho 4
You reposting this with a different title doesnt make it any less of a dumb post 9
The Hornets without Cody Zeller is an important note, theyre running Bismack at center rn. Still KAT is a beast against any team. 7
It hurts 4
Yeah but have you heard of Mo Peterson? 1
Russ has been great this season. Harden has been abhorrent. Youre trying to act like its partly Westbrooks fault when he has nothing to do with this issue. 14
These hot takes are going to be unbearable 5
"When hes finished with his career" is an important part you should include in the title. 16
Ah yes defensive juggernaut Dirk Nowitzki 11
https://imgur.com/a/dwo6RVr 1
Get fucked, hes in his 3rd season putting up 17/10 while going through a slump. Thats really good. > If this guy wasnt tall he wouldnt be in the league. God youre just pathetic dude. Get a grip. 34
Yeah theres a chance, if he maintains his current form hed get my vote 4
Dear diary 3
The fuck you mean "were five games in". Theyve missed the playoffs for 14 straight years. Thats a pretty big sample size bro. 7
Yeah, Westbrook doesnt help them long term. 5
Rockets defence is 2018 Cavs level 1
My understanding is that a flagrant two is intentional without doubt, youll rarely see a player get a flagrant two on a line ball decision. 5
All true but the Jazz are also a great team. 76ers are just having a tough night and are dealing with a Simmons injury. Theyll bounce back. 2
Felt good to see the Knicks win that game yesterday, theyve been pretty unlucky in tight contests so far this season. 0
Everyone is just making the same career high joke now after the dude that made the "whats the craziest stat of the night" post, smh 6
Kawhi had the worst triple double ever. 10/11/10 on 2/11 shooting and 9 turnovers. 7
I think the big difference last season was that the Bucks went from a 7th seed to a 60 win team. In comparison the Rockets went from 65 wins to a 4th seed. This year I dont know if it will be as clear cut as who wins more games because of the East/We 4
Somehow Harden can have a *bad* 49 point game... 7
Theyve lost 7 straight so yeah. 1
Thats not the right score. 19
Oh absolutely the Knicks were robbed...right in front of me! 1
These are the types of posts I love to see on the front page. Hope this post gets recognition 17
Nahhh it ended up working out for both teams. Hayward got to play for the Celtics which he wanted and we managed to fast track Donovan Mitchells development. The Jazz are also much better from a salary perspective now too. The Celtics have an a 2
Jeez you know hes a bust when this deserves a post. Fultz shot 42% from three on 5 attempts per game in college. I know the line is closer but this is really embarrassing that it needs to be posted that hes shooting at this level (which is really poo 8
Lmao of course Rockets fans are complaining about the refs. Except this time the excuses are coming early and theyre complaining in advance 22
Bro that Lou Williams miss was hilarious 3
Now the refs are just turning this game into a free throw contest 2
Scorching hot take, I have Magic Johnson ahead of LeBron in my all-time rankings 7
Magic was a 3xMVP and helped lead his team to the finals 9 times, winning 5 championships in that stretch. He was also FMVP in 3 of those series. He was one of the stars on a team who in his career never won fewer than 50 games and he had six 60 win seaso 1
I literally just said all the things he did that led to me to putting him above LeBron. 1
Glorified Karl Malone with 4 MVPs and 3 rings 5
Hey now, hes an all-star. 7
Imagine getting a 170 million dollars contract and not being to shoot. 1
Obviously. Jaylen can be a 1B guy on a contending team. Simmons cant be the number one guy 4
What has Randle been eating lately? 3
Yeah its been known for a while. Also for those wondering Paul Georges dad has 15 points so far on 5/8 shooting (all threes) 5
Bro theres no second guessing about it. Paul got away with a violation. 9
How are the Pels still losing to a rockets team without Harden, Capela and Westbrook? 12
Suprised nobody has posted about Luka yet 1
Additional stats: - Joe Ingles was 15th in the West in points per game this week. Higher than the likes of Jokic, Paul, George, McCollum and LeBron. - Joe Ingles was 1st in the ENTIRE LEAGUE in three pointers this week...while shooting 60% from th 0
Did Jordan Bell just goaltend as well? He put his hand through the hoop on an inbound with 0.2 left but im not sure if that counts 3
Thank goodness, that wouldve been a cruel way to lose 1
Why? He fits their team perfectly, you dont need to trade everyone if you arent making playoffs 31
Its a tough situation because obviously Ben is the number one overall pick and is expected to be a future star of the league so how much can Brett really cut his minutes? In most proffesional sports the coach calls the shots but the NBA seems to be m 3
Heck, even Ben Simmons complete lack of shooting has impacted guys like Al Horford now and had a wider impact on the team. Al liked to play a pick and pop type game in Boston but with Simmons inability to even shoot defenders just watch Horford on the rol 11
The Jazz did so well to trade Erik Green, Trey Lyles and pick 24 to the Nuggets for picks 13 (2017) and 27 (2013). The Utah scouts then used those picks to select Gobert and Mitchell which is an important clarification because Denver werent picking t 3
I dont think we need to trade Conley after hes played 20 games for us lol. That said CP3 would be the perfect fit for the Jazz that I would never want on the team. I just really dont like him. 2
Hes been injured for our last 10 games so its hard to tell. The Jazz have had an easier draw tho and Ingles has been really productive while starting in the meantime. 2
Why would New Orleans do that? This trade literally benefits only one team. 14
OKC doesnt benefit from this and Utah dont need to trade Conley after just 20 games 1
No. That is a useless trade for NOLA 7
Ok 6
God I love watching him play. Probably my favourite player in the league. 8
Im biased towards the Raptors and I still feel like its pretty clearly Brown and Tatum. 6
The Jays. OG doesnt deserve to be in this convo. 21
Davis has it wrapped up 5
Kuzma gets so much scrutiny for being on the Lakers, hes doing fine for a 27th overall pick in his 3rd season. 22
The Rockets in those two seasons with Harden and Paul. Definitely didnt help that they beat Utah in the playoffs too. 0
I think they were losing the WCF even with a healthy CP3. People conveniently ignore the fact that the Rockets lost game 3 by 40 points. Their game 4 and 5 wins were tiny. The Warriors were winning that series regardless. 0
Lillard has made the playoffs every season of his career. He also dropped a 50 point playoff game. 3
How is this post still up lol, its straight up just wrong. 5
Thats so much better... 11
34 shots lmao. Harden has the best bad games ever. 1
Maybe the guy thats bigger, strong, faster and more versatile. There really isnt an argument for Beverly. 12
Maybe the eye test is failing me but Jimmy Butler has been awful in the clutch this season. Maybe I also don’t know how to use stats properly but here it goes: Jimmy Butler is 2/13 from the field this season on shots to tie or take the lead in the 4th o 93
On that note I find it surprising that Kevin Durants career high is *only* 54. 1
Welcome to /r/nba 2
He had exactly 0 points and 0 assists in the fourth quarter. I just made a post about it because it seems like he keeps disappearing in close games this season. 13
Hes such a good playmaker. Last season he led all small forwards in total assists. That includes the likes of Lebron, Giannis and Durant. 1
Besides that, weve also got the third best record in the NBA. People can talk about our easy ten game stretch but the reality is weve played half a season now and are one of the best teams in the league. 9
As another question do you think that Paul George makes it? Hes only played 26 games this season but hes at least got the wins argument going for him. What do you think? Hes averaging 24/6/4 on 43/40/91 shooting in 2019-20. 5
Denver havent played Utah yet and have only played OKC once. 1
Yeah Joe Ingles got in his head and PG just couldnt compete mentally. 4
Nope, those players dont develop if they all stayed on the same roster. 12
You guys are so impatient ffs. Hes 22 and in his 3rd season. 7
Yeah thats fair, there are serious issues with the Chicago rotations but I dont think Lauri should be traded. If I was in charge Id sack the coach and keep him as a player to build around but thats easier said then done. I do think he has a lot of potenti 1
Mate there were 2 seconds left. A curling three point attempt for Redick is a great shot. The guy is shooting 46.4% from three this season. 4
Jordan. Won an MVP, a championship, all NBA first team a FMVP. Averaged 29/6/4 and made the all defence first team. EDIT: Honourable mention to Karl Malone who at age 35 won an MVP, all NBA first team Averaged 24/9/4 and made the all defence first te 38
Counterpoint, Sabonis is an amazing player with a great low post skill set. 8
I was tied in my fantasy matchup and only needed him to record one block for me to win. Instead he had his first game in a month without a block. I know this isnt relevant but I hate him from now on. 11
50 win team, competitive second round exit 5
Nope, the 76ers had three straight shot clock violations in crunch time. The Raptors at home had all the momentum and Philadelphias offence was in shambles. Their only bucket at the end was a fastbreak layup after a Siakam missed free throw. 17
Oh yeah got them mixed up, I think Siakam was game 3 against Milwaukee and Middleton got the transition layup to tie it. Either way I vividly remember watching that game 7 and the Raptors defence just went up a level in crunch time Philadelphia weren 7
He was better than them lmao 16
Duncan was All-NBA first team, All Defence first team and 4th in MVP voting in 2007. OP really dropped the ball on that one lmao 3
Pretty much, Luka will probably get some votes too but apart from that nobody else is really a genuine contender. 3
He is pretty inconsistent with his takes. Im sure hes called Kemba and Trae allstar starters during other broadcasts. 3
Simmons has a higher ceiling but Id still lean towards Siakam. You cant go wrong with both. However, Given the nature of r/nba tho it will be conclusively Simmons since he had a great game today. 7
How insecure do you have to be to feel the need to comment this in a thread that has nothing to do with Ben. 1
Way too early to say dude. >Assuming he keeps this up for another 5 years Thats kind of a vague thing to say. If he averages 35/15/7 per 36 while playing at a 70 win pace and being a DPOY level defender during that stretch hed rank very very 7
Nah the difference there is that the fans and players played a huge role in him getting voted in. As for Towns he would have to be selected by the coaches. 1
Its really not hard to understand if you know how to read. Bookers best season isnt better than Towns worst season. Both in stats and in wins. 7
Damn thats a throwback and a half 1
26/4/1 but 31 points? Come on bro if you want karma youve got to be better than that. 3
On a somewhat similar note I think Kyle Lowry averaged 4.7 rebounds per game in 5 consecutive seasons at one point in his career. 2
Pretty sure this post is a direct copy paste of the post after Mitchells game vs Denver that got around 2000 upvotes 39
Is there anything that you think makes Harris a better player than Barnes? Theyll both get their buckets but it barely translates to any improvement in a teams offence. -1
LeBron fucking James 28
Extraordinarily overrated. 6
Bad 16
The worst thing about KAT is that hes a traffic cone on defence. The Wolves defence goes from top 5 without him to bottom 5 with him in the lineup. The Wolves even have a better record in games that he doesnt play 3
Yeah coz they all got injured lol. Curry, Klay and KD are all-star locks when healthy. 3
Theyd get swept but Id love to see an 8th seed Wizards playing Milwaukee. Every game would be 130-115 and it would be so much fun to watch. No offence to teams like the Bulls and Magic but I think all out scoring would be more exciting than a defensi 1
Center in the 90s. There was a season that Ewing was 5th in MVP voting but not all NBA. Shaq, Hakeem and Robinson all made it instead 6
Surely Portland can protest 16
Wolves fans must be having the time of their lives. Hopefully the 12 game losing streak ends tonight. 33
I kind of like the final score because this is pretty much exactly what everyone was expecting for KAT and DLO’s first games together. Score 126 but give up 137. 47
Furkan has had back to back great games so him. 6
He typifies the Heat culture. I really like the fit for him 6
Then by that logic shouldnt Trae Young be MVP 11
Well Simmons just had a great game so clearly him 23
Jokic 2
If every player is healthy Id put him behind: (and apologies in advance if i forget someone) Giannis, Lebron, Durant, Steph, Harden, Davis, Kawhi. Hes then in the mix with Jokic, Embiid, Luka, George, Westbrook. So probably 8-10 range. 16
Giannis isnt playing bro. This is the same pacers team that had previously lost 6 straight. 31
That really puts things into perspective. 7
Hes chucked up bricks twice today expecting a bail out foul call 10
I needed one of those last dunk attempts to go in 7
Why would you say something so controversial yet so true 18
Ones a forward and ones a guard 19
And he was also All-NBA defensive first team. 5
Saying they had an easy schedule and referencing SOS shows that you dont know what youre talking about. SOS is always going to be lower for teams with better records because they dont play against themselves and their win differential is so much bigg 0
If by consideration you mean third place votes then yeah he should get some consideration. -1
Yeah Id say that Scottie was probably better as a perimeter defender but all factors on defence considered Id agree that Rodmans versatility was pretty much unmatched 2
Im pretty sure Pippen was a better man to man defender. Both could guard 1-5 tho so Im not sure actually who was better at their peak. Its pretty close imo. Id give the edge to Pippen due to how long he was at his defensive peak too. 1
The best duo in NBA history. 8
Yes the NBA absolutely wants to rig results in favor of a team from New Orleans.. 7
He gets fouled, the Lakers fouled a lot, show me what calls were actually wrong. -10
Heat fans are giving gold to anyone calling Bam DPOY and the leagues best defender so the overreacting has already started. 19
Its hilarious how far circlejerks go in this subreddit. These posts will be gilded and given 1000s of upvotes because if how much people overreact. Giannis dropped 29/19/9 last time he played Bam too lol 8
How do you tear someones achilies? 16
Oh man that was criminal. Im 99% sure the only reason he won it was because he sent the voters a thank you letter the season before when he won the award. Kanter and Iggy easily were far better players and much more deserving to win. 6
You think so? He averaged 12/4/2, started over 60 games and was an incredible shooter. I think he shot 40+% from deep that year and was also top 10 in the league in threes. He also played on a playoff team 2
It shouldnt but it likely will. Chris Paul missed out on MVP because of one game 1
Yes but the race was neck and neck with a lot of people advocating for Paul because he was having one of the all-time great seasons for a point guard. The MVP was effectively decided in a late season game where the Lakers won against the Hornets. Thi 1
Bro who gives a fuck? Nobody will ever look back on his career and care about who won the February player of the month award from 2020. 23
Yep, the media narrative would be too hard to ignore. 8
A teenager scoring 21 points on 50% shooting is clamped. Im so hyped for Zion man, this was one of his *worst* games and he still made an impact. 6
This is the perfect answer 4
Theyre like 7-1 since the all-star break. Pay more attention smh. 5
Hes been really finding some form since returning to the starting lineup. Jazz have suddenly won 4 straight 1
Bro theyre calling for a flagrant after Giannis contested a jump shot with his eyes on the ball the whole time -2
Here come the bad takes 7
Yeah but karma 3
Wolves fans must be in love with this guy. Hes been playing his heart out every game and is balling like crazy since joining the team 4
On paper theyre a pretty good team but it really depends on how guys like Ingles and ONeale play in my opinion. T. heyve had inconsistent seasons and well need them to step up. Also hes had a slow start to the season (understatement) but Mike Conley 3
Quadruple double! 26/10/10 with 10 turnovers. 1
You didnt like the comments you got on the first post? 5
Fantastic coaching by Denver not to call a timeout. 8
Were going to lose 4 straight again. We play Toronto, Memphis, OKC and NOLA in our next four games. Our recent 5 game win streak was all against shitty East teams with the exception of a short-handed Boston 9
With the new lottery odds it doesnt matter as much as past years 9
The lack of substitution down the stretch was so stupid. For the unaware he failed to sub in Hield when the Kings were down 3 with possession 25
Why do we need to make this post after everytime he plays a bad game? Like we just won 5 straight, we lose to the leagues 3rd beat team and all of a sudden we need to hate on Rudy again. Im so tired of this. 4
I understand him getting criticism for this shocking game but I wish it went both ways. We recently won 5 straight games and he was dominant in that stretch and nobody cares. As soon as the Jazz lose tho he gets all the hate 1
You should know more than anyone that players have bad games. Didnt embiid go scoreless against these same Raptors? 0
How would they not be a contender? 1
This sub goes hard on him when he plays bad. Its actually crazy 5
Im so tired of this shit lol 4
Hes just a polarising player. His good games are awesome because hell give you 20 points on 9/10 shooting while also impacting everything defensively. His bad games are really bad because his skill set of rim running and pick and roll play can 6
Yeah he usually scores all his points in the paint, but in the end its 2 points and thats what matters. 1
Of course were gonna blame Rudy 8
Things are just getting worse and worse for him 6
Rudy lmao 20
Australian Football starts this Friday 3
Why? 6
The home team, Perth Wildcats have won 4 of the last 6 championships in the league and in that stretch have never lost a grand finals series home game. Of course, that could change with their tremendous home crowd being unable to attempt the game. Th 1
Just google "NBL Twitch", the game starts in half an hour. 2
I was actually thinking of doing this on the Utah jazz subreddit. The mod team will organise a stream on twitch for a past game and then have a game thread for the fans to comment on. It could be something nice to fill the void while NBA is gone. 3
I wholeheartedly agree. I think wed just need to get a twitch stream going for each game. It would be pretty great 6
I dont find you funny 2
Did yall know Wades wife is 10 years older than him? 2
Made a couple All-NBA teams in as a SG in an era with Kobe, Wade, Manu so he was pretty good, probably a borderline top 10 player but definitely in the 10-20 range. 2
Your AssFirstPointGuard Kyle Lowry probably fits in. Hes a 5 or 6 time all star and has made just the one All-NBA 3rd team in his career. Hes never been on the level of Curry, Westbrook, Paul or Lillard but hes constantly been able to get All Star re 4
Whats unfortunate about him making the hall of fame? Dude is one of the most clutch players in the past 20 seasons. 3
Spot on mate. 1
I could go on and on about why T-Mac is the biggest fraud ever but it basically boils down to the fact that he: A) Literally never won a single playoff series. Not once, he did not make it out of the first round ever. B) Was a perennial playoff 0
Ok 1
This is one of the stupidest things Ive ever seen 3
He gone? 1
Give me the biggest asterisk ever and Id take it. Everyone can call the team the worst championship team ever, say they lucked into it, whatever. Id absolutely take the asterisk championship. 2
I mean LeBrons the exception but generally speaking its not a bad idea for players to stay in college and have a back up plan if the NBA doesnt work out for them. All it takes is one injury and a players career can be altered. 2
They were also 17-5 without Kawhi in their championship season. 4
Its Stephen Curry, dont overthink it. > Curry could not lead a team like CP3 is leading the Thunder. Also this statement is full of shit, he lead the Warriors to 67 wins in 2014-15. > CP3 would win multiple rings with Durant/Klay/Draymo 2
Yeah coz he got hacked, are we also gonna ignore that he reportedly hit Ayesha Curry? 1
I dont think anyone forgets him, dudes a consensus pick in everybodys top 10 of all-time. Its just that people werent old enough to watch him. The dude is a 3x MVP who finished top 3 in MVP voting for 8 consecutive seasons after finishing 4th in his 2
I dont know whether to upvote this for effort or downvote it because I dont want it to be true. Jokes aside if the Jazz have to trade Gobert I really wanna see him team up with Trae Young. Theyd be such a good duo on offence in a deadly pick and roll 1
I understand the hypothetical behind the line-up but it doesnt make sense. Portland wouldnt have drafted Dame if that team stayed really good (no injuries) and CJ doesnt become the player he is without having a season (15-16) to be ball dominant and 1
Yeah exactly, Curry averaging like 28/6/7 in the 2018 finals shows his lack of killer instinct. He should be more like Kawhi and average 18/6/2 on a loaded Spurs team to win a real FMVP... 3
Youre so brave Op 2
Side note these threads are one of the few threads that actually create basketball discussion on this subreddit because people actually say what they believe instead of what they think will get upvoted. 9
From a purely basketball perspective I dont really understand how Dirk can be ranked ahead of Malone. The ring must really shape peoples perceptions because there is nothing that Dirk is better at than Malone on the basketball court with the excepti 6
You know what I think thats fair. Everyone please congratulate your back to back champions [the Utah Jazz](https://imgur.com/a/J0lU7Tx) 1
Kawhi finishing 4th in rookie of the year voting was him getting 1 first place vote out of a possible 120 lol. 1
Anything but facing Houston 1
Did Shaq have the highest peak of just the highest peak youre aware of? In 1972 Kareem averaged 35/17/5 while shooting 57% from the field and leading Milwaukee to a 63 win season. Its definitely debatable with Shaqs absolutely insane finals aver 2
Hes as much of a HOF candidate as any young player with an allstar appearance. Dude has his whole career Infront of him. 20
The merger was in 1977 so that should be considered as a starting point for the "modern NBA" 1
Paul George got caught simping for a thick dude. Then he knocked up a stripper and got stuck into marrying her. Does that count? 3
I mean he still got injured when he was at his best. In his last 3 weeks (8games) before the injury against Houston he had averaged 38.8 PPG on 52/43/90 shooting. 4
I disagree with Noel but I do feel like the rest of the OKC team doesnt get enough credit for their season. Too many people are pinning all the success on CP3 which isnt fair for what the others have achieved, especially Gallo. 5
Whats the record for most consecutive seasons of increases in PPG? I remember Haywards streak was at 7 or 8 before he joined Boston. 1
The pelicans dont need him fighting for defensive rebounds, they want him running out on offence and in transition as soon as they get possession. Favors is a great rebounder and so is Lonzo, letting Zo get the rebound often is better coz he gets the 2
Whats contradictory about it? Youd rather have Westbrook getting the rebound and bringing the ball up the court than Zion. Hes quicker and has better ball control. Dont overthink it. 2
Youre just being obtuse. Whos going to get an outlet pass to Russ? Whos going to bring the ball up the court? Theres also a massive difference between a big man rim running and a 63 point guard 1
You mean like Wade? Bosh? Kyrie? Love? Davis? LeBron always changes teams when hes a free agent to go to the best situation for him. He shouldnt need to have on long term teammate when he always replaces the old dudes with better younger guys. 1
lmao 2
/u/sim888 is the goat 1
Kevin Durant 5
2Pat has hit 500+ career threes on 37% shooting, hes do fine. 5
Id rather have one more year of Conley than be stuck with 3 years of CP3 on a $124 Million contract when we have to pay Gobert and Mitchell soon. Mike was also finding some good form with the Jazz after returning from injury and familiarising with th 1
Bogdanovics buzzer beaters this season 1
Because 6 championships is more than 3. The aim at the start of the season for each team is to win it all, not to simply get to the finals. 5
I would. Didnt LeBron miss playoffs in his first two seasons with Cleveland? In the end its about winning rings and its not 6-0 vs 3-6, its 6 rings vs 3 rings. 1
Duncan never won less than 50 games in a season, never had a teammate as good as Shaq and was elite from his rookie year (1st team All-NBA as a rookie!) 3
It was literally the first thing mentioned. 7
How can you not understand that the circumstances this year are completely different? The regular season was **unexpectedly** cut short while the season was going so fixtures are all over the place, teams havent played in 3 months and theres no home 2
So what do you want us to do with this information? Invalidate their championship or something? Also something like 70% of this list is just you re-using the KD injury stuff lol 4
I find it weird that Jackson doubled down on this two to basically say "my suffering is worse than yours". Dont understand how people try to make a competition of this instead of having sympathy for each other. 4
What in the every living fuck is offensive about the name Golden State **Warriors**? 4
John Stockton is so unlucky to miss the cut-off for players to average over 3.0 steals multiple times. - In 1988 he averaged 2.95 per game. - In 1989 he averaged 3.21 per game. - In 1992 he averaged 2.98 per game. 4
Id also pick Curry but its kind of a silly argument to use, especially after last year. Harden averaged 35/7/6 on 60% TS in that series. Curry averaged 24/5/6 on 54% TS and his shooting splits were 40/28/90. With Durant playing 4 and a half 3
I strongly doubt its sincere. These dudes, especially Wade, just have a big ego and a reputation in the spotlight that theyre trying to preserve for as long as possible. 2
I dont see how you could argue that hes better than Trae. Hes honestly the most disrespected player in the league. 2nd in the league in scoring (which he does at 60% TS) and 2nd in the league in assists. If anyone else was doing this in their second 17
Thats pretty much my point. This guy has already had 12 games with at least 40 points in his career. 6 of those games have been 45 points or more. In 2019-20 he had to average 35/4/11 on 66% TS in wins because of how bad the Hawks team around him is. 3
> He’s a large reason why the hawks are such a terrible team. Hes the only reason why the Hawks didnt secure the worst W-L record in NBA history this year. Seeing a player dominate like he does offensively and try and use his defence to say that 2
I can definitely see where youre coming from, especially with how Superstar focused the NBA is now. Players barely stay on a team for 3 years now, looking at recent trades, so it makes sense to follow your favourite players instead of being stuck with one 1
Harden, Kobe, Wade, Lebron Harden should definitely be number one but the order of the others should be interchangeable. 1
If you put AI on the 2019 Raptors theyre losing in the second round 1
Shaq at 90% from the free throw line sounds tempting but Hakeem having Steph like shooting is just unstoppable. 6
Do you mean which team has the most drives where they then kick the ball out to 3 point shooters? Houston and Utah do that a lot. 6
As many as you like, dont let anyone tell you otherwise 2
Hes giving us quality highlights bro, why are you getting upset about someone else receiving internet points for providing something of value to the subreddit? 8
Your friend is correct, Curry currently isnt a member of the hall of fame. 1
What do you think? 1
Yeah Im really confused by how thats happening but theyll probably just give it to whichever position gets more votes. Also Realistically it would trigger the league to change the rule the following season and make All-NBA teams like All-Rookie teams. 1
Everyones trying to karma farm this lol 0
dion 1
Is this a joke? 2
Because professional basketball players like to win games of professional basketball 23
2015-16 was when he had the really bad reputation as a defender because he got caught sleeping so often but I feel like since then hes really improved. Hes clearly got this size, smarts and strength to guard one on one when players back him down. He 3
Your friends probably right tho, basketball is all about outscoring an opponent. The best way to do that is to make baskets, the most efficient way to make baskets is with 3 balls and Dieng is a better shooter from 3 than KG. 6
I genuinely thought this was satire at first. 5
Nah hes just big and clumsy sometimes, he was trying to rip the ball through. Not elbow Houses face 15
Karl Malone made 4 All Defence teams including 1st teams in both MVP years. Are you trying to insinuate that he wasnt a great defender and suggest his steal numbers arent a true reflection of his defensive capabilities? 4
Hardens good at defending big players, its the small quicks he struggles with 8
Theres no denying the Clippers defence can lock him down, I reckon itll really come to fruition in a playoff series. The problem is their team is a lot of great scorers without a lot of chemistry. 4
Whether hes "trying" or not you dont see him go 29/79 from the field (36.7%) against anyone in the regular season. Theres clearly something the Clippers have done well defensively 3
Is this answer no, I think the answer is no 2
It always looks cool when theres two coloured jerseys instead of just the default white for the home team 3
No he didnt, there was no indication that he wanted a trade. The suns salary dumped him to sign Rubio and Oubre iirc 3
Hes got a bloody good case. 2008 MVP runner up. 7th alltime in assists. 8th alltime in steals. 8x All-NBA. 9x All Defence. 12 playoff appearances in 15 seasons. 1
Dont rate them at all, Barrett is average at best and Robinson is the only one who I think could be somewhat useful on a good team. Frank is too much of a liability on offence while overrated af defensively, Knox just doesnt seem NBA calibre and DSJ looks 6
Me too 2
No, theres a clear middle ground 1
His defence is so poor, just completely lacks any type of lateral movement to cover guards 6
Thats hard to get my head around but I do appreciate it. Do you know where I can find something that simply says: Memphis has the tiebreaker over Portland. Phoenix has the tiebreaker over Memphis.. as an example? 1
Thank you so much for this 1
To my understanding they dont because their win percentage is 0.1% lower than the other teams, Im planning to have a simple to follow post up in half an hour showing all 16 remaining possible playoff outcomes for the 8th seed 1
Thanks for letting me know, hopefully this works. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KIAB32ro1NZW57fo3W9yqqMpaj7HucxfWkCDiaWy2HY/edit?usp=sharing. If not this should definitely work: https://imgur.com/a/2jN9sBe 3
Nah thats ok. Basically you just need to follow the horizontal row of who you think will win each game and it will show what the standings will look like based on those results. 1
Imagine the Grizzlies making the playoffs because Mo Wagner pissed of Giannis 2
Rockets are locked into 4th or 5th. If OKC win today, Houstons final game of the season just determines if they finish 4th or 5th but the Thunder matchup will be locked in. 1
My early prediction for 2020-21 is that the Mavs win 60 games next season and Luka wins MVP. They lost a lot of really close games this season that made their win total lower that it shouldve been and I expect that to improve next year. 3
This was such a wholesome game 1
Now just imagine if the Rockets with Russ lose in the first round how much hell get criticised. 4
Wouldnt surprise me if he gets a lot of 5th place votes. I think Giannis, Lebron will get 1st place and 2nd place votes. Harden will get a majority of 3rd. Kawhi, Lillard and Doncic will get 4th and 5th place votes with Davis, Jokic and Paul getting 1
I mean TS% is if youre a nerd who didnt watch the games but 47/40/93 shooting splits against elite defence is amazing. You could see the level of difficulty on the shots he hit and he did it at the highest level. 6
Are we comparing Dame vs GSW to Finals Kyrie OR Finals Kyrie to current Dame? Stay on topic dude. 5
For what its worth: Finals Kyrie averaged 28/4/4 on 47/40/93 to go with 1.9 steals and 0.6 blocks per game playing at the highest level of competition against Warriors teams that were 1st, 5th and 1st in defensive rating. 7
This is tricky tho, because I take "current Dame" to be the 7 games hes played in the bubble. MVP Russ maintained an elite level of play and would have many 7 game stretches that rival Dame. 8
Lets see if they can win today against the G League Nets first 43
50 is his Playoff career high which he set against Seattle in 2000 at age 37. He had 61 on 21/26 shooting once in 28 minutes against the Bucks in 1990 for his career high overall 11
Yeah but lets focus on the positives 5
The second year player in his playoff debut still dropping 42/7/9 against the arguable championship favourites treatment 5
Hes a second year player who just dropped 42/7/9. This is like people blaming Mitchells 8 second violation on our loss. 17
Of course its a raptors fan posting this, yall have some weird obsession of hating the players and teams that you beat during your championship run 4
The fact that they had 16, 19 and 12 point leads in close out games and couldnt secure victory is the reason theyre being labelled as having choked. 34
Doesnt matter, we had our chances and didnt take advantage of them. Personally Im just proud that we managed to win 3 games against the Nuggets considering Bogdanovics injury. We didnt even play badly in our 4 losses but Murray just stole the game wi 1
The issue is it goes both ways and Jokic got away with multiple other fouls. 24 free throws is a ridiculous total for one quarter but the Nuggets also dont necessarily have the defenders to contain Anthony Davis appropriately. 1
Apparently nobody here knows what theyre talking about. In 2015 Lebron was dealing with back and knee injuries which caused him to have an interupted season leading to a noticeable decline which was dubbed as "LeDecline" at the time. He was still eas 12
And thats a perfectly valid question for a new fan. - In 2014 with the Heat, James averaged 27.4 PPG on 57/41/81 shooting in 20 games. - In 2015 with the Cavs, James averaged 30.1 PPG on 42/23/71 shooting in 20 games. I dont understand why 7
That one seems like it could be interchangeable and I can definitely see the argument since Dame has proven more so far in his career. It was a genuine coin toss for me. 1
Yeah that was a tricky one for me, can definitely see the argument both ways. The main thing that made me put Harden above Giannis is I feel like the Greek Freaks inability to shoot in the playoffs (especially free throws) hindered his teams ability to su 1
Thats basketball for you 15
Chris Paul, Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum, Brandon Ingram and, Joel Embiid are five that immediately come to mind. Devin Booker sixth man would work too. Jokic should be top 10 over Russ in your list 2
Franchises? Its just the Cavs who are shit lol 5
Most teams would kill for that type of success 8
Idk but how the hell are the Lakers 9/15 from three 7
You dont need to apologize for shit 1
Dont you get it dude, the Warriors championship for being the best team in the league deserves an asterisk because the players on that legally assembled team were too good at basketball. 4
I dont see how this swings the pendulum. If you think LeBron is the Goat this series doesnt change that and if you think Jordan is the Goat this series means barely anything in the scheme of things 5
Imagine if Giannis got to play with LeBron instead of Khris Middleton 0
Is this r/nbacirclejerk? 3
There is absolutely no way that you could justify 6-0 being better than 6-6. Both would have 6 championships but 6-6 means that one player was able to lead their team further in a season an additional six times in comparison to the other who was sim 3
Oh well, nothing we can do about it 5
Luka Doncic individually wouldve been an easy pick before the playoffs but at this stage I guess you have to give the nod to Butler right? Hes basically averaging a 29 point triple double on 67% TS in the NBA Finals while still playing fantastic defe 5
Lmao Id rather have 200 million in the bank than a ring that I know I contributed nothing towards. 2
If Rudy was "allowed to dribble" hed average 20 turnovers per game lol. 8
> How many players were MVP-level players in their second season at age 20? - Kevin Durant finished 2nd in MVP voting when he was 21. - LeBron James finished 2nd in MVP voting when he was 21. - Shaq finished 4th in MVP voting when he was 21. 5
You hit the nail on the head there. Here are how young those players were when they made their first All-NBA team. |Players|Age Years|Age Days| :--|--:|--:| |LeBron James|21|110| |Kevin Durant|21|197| |Tim Duncan|21|359| |Shaquille ONeal|22|49| 2
Yep, If the regular season hadnt been delayed due to cover he wouldve set the all time record as the youngest at around 21 years and 50 days. 2
Whats the sample size for games played. Seems like something you conveniently left off. Also if you think the leader of the two best regular season records since Michael Jordans Bulls and a unanimous MVP is relying on Draymond Green to be great tha 1
Can you send a link for that source that you used? 1
People dont understand the value of Gobert so they think an inefficient turnover prone ball dominant big is more effective because he might be able to score 20-22 points. 2
Magic making 9 finals in 11 seasons is why hes 4th all-time in my player rankings list, (behind MJ, LeBron and Kareem). Combine that with 10 All-NBA first team appearances and 9 seasons in the top 3 for MVP voting he was at the top of his game from t 1
Marcus Morris trade 4
Its always difficult to rank 100 players but theres some takes theatre shocking here. Particularly James Harden at 72 when you have Klay one spot ahead him. Harden should unquestionably be top 50 at a bare minimum. 5
Whats the reasoning in that case for ranking shooting guards like Manu, Klay, Vince, T-Mac etc over Harden. Theres no way that Harden is the 14th ranked shooting guard of all-time. Hes put together 5 MVP calibre seasons in his career and never missed 4
Everyone knows the Warriors were the better team, they were just hopeful Houston could work a miracle. The warriors had wins in that series by 41 and 29 points while the Rockets were winning by 3 and 4 points 0
Yall still got outscored by 63 points across the 7 games, I doubt theres many 7 game series that have had that big a point differential. 0
Absolutely not. Dude was drafted only for his athleticism, lateral quickness and first step but apart from that he just straight up doesnt have basketball skills. Maybe if he stayed healthy and developed he couldve been a starter quality player. 6
Yeah he had some nice moments, [this will always be my favourite memory of him](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN79DymzjZg), but ultimately hes been a disappointment. Im Australian so I really wanted him to develop but it seems that hes now wasted potent 4
Yeah I follow the NBL so I managed to catch a bunch of his games. Hampton currently seems very raw so Im a bit unsure on how to discuss his potential and make comparisons. That said I think Hampton is more developed at this stage than Exum was. He wo 1
He has the physical gifts but what did he do well on the court except for sliding laterally in a defensive stance? Hes not a good ball handler, not a good shooter, not a good playmaker, not a good slasher, not a good scorer, not a good rebounder, not 2
With what cap space bro? 1
2016 has an argument but 2015 isnt really that high up there. In the last 20 years the most impressive MVPs are 2000 Shaq, 2004 KG, 2009 Lebron, 2013 Lebron, 2014 KD and 2020 Giannis 9
His playoffs performance was extremely underwhelming but his regular season, particularly pre-bubble was historic and by many metrics was actually considered right up there for the best of all time. 30/14/6 averages in just 30 minutes per game with D 4
For what its worth I feel like 2019 Harden and 2008 Chris Paul should be on that list if were talking about the greatest seasons of the last 20 years but they didnt win MVP so I had to exclude them. 2
What do you think mate? 1
Well that makes two of us then. 1
John Stockton led the league in assists for 8 straight seasons and has an untouchable assist record. He also reportedly perfected 72 unique variations on the PnR so hed surely be up there. 9
Yeah Im with you there, Kyrie has some unpopular opinions but theres nothing wrong with this. 11
I mean I can understand why at least, its not as crazy or outlandish as the flat earth stuff. 3
Josh Green to the Jazz would be absolutely brilliant. Nice write up overall and I liked the added twist to things 1
Exactly, the Suns have missed the playoffs in 11 straight years. Trading for a proven star guard can help build a culture and lead them towards some success. Im sure Suns fans would be thrilled with a first round exit in 2021. At the absolute least 7
Hate is a very strong word, Ive never really seen hate for him, definitely not as a consensus opinion. Id say hes pretty well respected. 3
How does this compare to past drafts? 2
Agree, suprised to see heavily upvoted comments saying people would rather have Dwight. 1
The Lakers got the advantage of poor reffing. The Astros genuinely cheated and broke the rules. Massive difference. 10
Probably wouldnt have considering your best player shot like Ben Wallace from the line. Chris Webber went 16/35 (45.7%) from the line in that series 1
Kings shot 2/20 from three and 14/30 from the free throw line in game 7 of the 2002 WCF. The game was decided in overtime. I know their argument is that game 7 should never have happened but they absolutely choked on their home floor when they had th 5
Aaron Baynes would be sick 14
Im here to tell you right now...we dont care 69
Fun fact, OKC also has the worst education funding in the past decade of all US States. 11
Yeah hes one of the best users on here but got banned from the mods after making a meme that referenced Jamal Murrays IG story in a visual way. 7
They won their first ring because they won the most regular season games of any team in the post Jordan era, were 1st in defensive rating, 1st in PPG and then beat the Pelicans, Grizzlies and Rockets In the playoffs. 4
Mike Tyson bro, wtf. He literally started his career 45-1. Hed rip off Lebrons head. 7
Hes a big man that never protects the paint too. Ive seen him just flinch and not even contest a shot when players get deep in the lane. Dudes like Baynes for example will contest every shot even if it means getting dunked on but Drummond hides from those 1
Yeah hed probably be the more common GOAT pick but there would always be people saying that Jordan achieved that already in far fewer seasons. 4
2013-14 for sure, he was doing everything on offence while being the focal point of every other teams defensive game plan and he didnt have Westbrook for most of the season. His increased efficiency in the 2017 season is largely attributed to lower 3
Bruhhhh who cares Russ just got traded 5
Nah this dude whose name rhymes with Cycle Broaden 6
Theres not really an argument from prime Pau being better 1
lmao. the Jazz behind the Grizzlies, Pelicans, Wizards and Magic makes absolutely zero sense unless Gobert and Mitchell both get injured. 2
Good bot 11
I havent seen a lot of Hornets hype but adding arguably the best player in the draft and a former all-star who averaged an extremely efficient 18/6/4 as the fourth option to a 9th seeded team is enough to get excited about if youre a Hornets fan. PJ 1
We hear this every year lol 1
IQ tests dont determine how smart you are, its just about understanding patterns. 3
Didnt they also win zero playoff series from 2002 until 2017. Its crazy, yet understandable, how quickly the expectation for them has been championship or bust. This past season by winning against Orlando in round 1 they actually had their 4th best 6
Not at all. They have a budding superstar, a perfect second option and a great support cast. Theyve made the ECF in 3 of the last 4 years. If anything other teams are making way for them 9
No. Most of the top 50 all-time would be there whether they had an MVP or not. Top 50 is a combination of peak performance and longevity so one award isnt enough. 4
> Pippen came off the bench 4 of 5 games and only really played particularly well in game 5. Charles Oakley was the second best player for the Bulls and averaged 10.8 ppg. Yet clowns still say that Jordan couldnt win without Pippen. 13
Thats not very nice, we talk to others with respect over here 1
I dont think you realise what it takes to be top 3 all-time in assists. Even Chris Paul isnt up there and hes averaged 9.5 per game for like 15 years 8
Me an intellectual: John Stockton is the GOAT. Basketball is a team game all about outscoring your opponent so theres no better metric than assists to represent basketball. Entering 2019-20 Stockton had more career assists than Lebron and Westbrook c 0
What better way to outscore your opponents in a team game than to get your teammates points! 1
True that, qualifying for the playoffs in 19/19 seasons is very impressive. Just another reason why hes the GOAT 5
Its definitely a harsh reality since the women are literally the top 0.0000001% of the world at what they do but basketball is ultimately a part of the entertainment industry and their just isnt an audience for it. EDIT: Needed more zeroes 15
Hes a 16x all-star, 4x league MVP and 3x champion. Youve got to include him. 1
Karl Malone, a 11x All-NBA **first** team, 2x MVP who made 6 WCFs, 3 Finals, made the playoffs in 20/20 seasons, was the best player on twelve 50 win teams and four 60 win teams has to be up here. 2
Wade, Dirk, Robinson and Garnett in my opinion. Id also have him over Moses Malone who only had like 5 seasons leading his team to 50+ wins. 2
Thats fair enough, youre being consistent with your rule so I can see your perspective. 1
Any player in the top 50 should believe that theyre an allstar. Any player in the top 25 should believe theyre top 10. Any player in the top 10 should believe theyre the best in the world, and I reckon would all see themselves as MVP contender 9
Yeah theres literally no question, he was pretty much locked in 5 years ago. At the end of 2016 he was a 6x all-star, 5x All-NBA, 2x top 5 in MVP voting and the elite second option on 4 WCF final teams. 28
Most people dont mind KD leaving OKC, they dislike him joining Golden State. 17
Nah, its trendy on this subreddit to say that theyre overrated and theyll be a second round exit. 5
God damn he went 1/10? 1
It was pretty obvious, when I get a replay Ill post it. After the initial foul by Trae he used his off hand (right hand) to try and bring down Trae which is why he got shoved. Its like when Delly got "kicked" by Horford but he was doing some dodgy shit be -14
I think thats what it is, they just saw the push because the main camera angle hid the hook. 3
I disagree, but even if he is, Draymond was still a huge reason for their 3 rings and 5 finals appearances. 5
I mean anyone roasting the contract isnt thinking from the right perspective. The Warriors paying him that money is essentially a reward for his services in security many rings. The reason other players are usually clowned for their contracts is because i 1
Dude put up like 35/15/10 on 70+% shooting in game 7 of the 2016 Finals only for the unanimous MVP to shoot 6/19 from the field for 17 points. 1
Probably to keep it balanced. Otherwise the team has the leagues best shooter, perimeter defender and paint defender all on the same team which literally gives it no weaknesses. 3
Damn now Im just realising how stacked it could be. Curry, Booker, Tatum, Simmons and KAT with Murray, Lavine, Oubre and Gobert off the bench. 2
Just got off the phone with Quin Snyder. He cant believe he never thought of this and wants to offer OP an assistant coaching position. 3
Im effectively a millionaire in everything except for having a million dollars. 1
None of them lol. I just want to see players who I dont rate as highly as others prove themselves. 2
He called Marquese Chriss "Wiggins" ffs 10
Hes Literally exactly who we have known he was, I dont know why people expected anything different just because he played for the Warriors. 5
Sure it can but I wouldnt bet on it with a far improved Nets and an upgraded Bucks and 76ers. 1
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Thats not particularly a suprising thing at all. Increase it to a 15 point lead in 4/5 games for something more meaningful. 7
I hope he sees this bro 2
Dirk and Stockton too. Especially since Stock couldve had a bigger role on another team but stayed loyal to his team too. 7
If anything doesnt that make it less impressive. Who would want to leave a winning situation? 2
I always advise against using advanced stats over small sample sizes but just for fun he had a 101.9% TS in this match 3
If this was Westbrook this post would be front page material lol 19
Hell be fine, just an off game. If anything this is impressive that the Suns won while he struggled 12
All these guys average or have averaged near double digits assists in their best years. Calling them ball hogs because theyre also volume scorers would be just dumb. 9
Damn bro you got the whole squad laughing 15
Didnt he go 0-10 against them or something? I like Dame but hes definitely immune to criticism in a way that Harden, Westbrook and Paul George all arent...even tho theyre all (except Harden) on the same level as a player. 1
KD more likely to get it, Kyrie has never been MVP calibre and hasnt really polled highly. Even when he led Boston to that 55 win season and 22-4 start. Edit: Kyrie didnt even get a 5th place MVP vote that year and actually has never polled an MVP v 13
His good outweighs his bad a lot. 5 consecutive finals appearances as a top 3 player in the league is extremely impressive. 9
Yall complain so much about the commentary, just enjoy the game bro 5
Hes also been pretty ass over his 5 regular season games last season without Klay but its definitely a miniscule sample size 1
Its actually a donut shape 2
Jazz in 3 6
Probably when his 2nd and 3rd best players arent both injured after preferably more than just 2 regular season games. You do realise that Kerr coached the Warriors to the finals in every season hes coached except for one where both his 1st, 2nd and 3rd be 6
Those kind of discussions are probably better left as a comment in a post game thread or as a post to discuss after the completion of this match. 5
Are we really at the stage where Currys dominance over the last 5 seasons is getting overshadowed by two bad regular season games that were exaggerated by his 2nd and 3rd opinion playing like trash. We all know the story of Wiggins but Oubre is 0/7 0
Lebron, KD, Curry unanimous top 3. Then the argument for 4th and 5th is a really tough one between Giannis, Harden and Kawhi. -4
Brooks was too close to Trae, literally riding on his back and made contact with him as he went for a shot. What do you want the refs to do? 3
His ability to get to the line as well really sets him apart from a lot of other great scorers at his age. 6
Luka gets to the line a lot too but Trae is way better at actually making them lol. 3
Hes definitely top 5. People are going to be clowns and say "its only 2 games" but he averaged 30/5/10 last season so its not like this is an unrealistic start to the year or hyper inflated numbers 3
Source on the quickest center to 1000 career assists? 3
No 1
How does this game prove that at all? 3
Its ok, they got picks and they could potentially be as good as Sabonis 2
How many games? Like 10? Still pretty impressive tho. 10
He did? Im pretty happy with 18 points and 17 rebounds on 7/10 shooting in just 29 minutes due to foul trouble. 6
The Kings getting 20 more free throws in game 3 or them getting 10 more free throws in game 5? Shaq getting just 1 free throw in game 5? Oh right it was the refs shooting 2/20 from three and 14/30 from the free throw line in game 7. -1
Tim Donaghy was disgraced for betting on games, of course hes going to say things like this to try and make it seem like he wasnt the only one. He has nothing to lose by refusing if it was rigged and everything to gain by calling it rigged. 0
Honestly thats not too bad a list 7
So whats that now, 0/32 on non dunks? 7
I agree but who do you think he makes it over? Butler, Tatum, Durant, Giannis and Embiid are all clearly better and Bam, Brown and Middleton are all more popular. Its just incredibly tough competition. 1
Mitchell scored 12 points on 5/9 shooting in the last 5:30 of the game including a go ahead bucket with 7 seconds left so maybe Im being overly critical on him but the game should not have been this close. 1
Id say its sustainable mainly because extended run of good form for him. In his last ~25 games which includes his finish to last season hes averaged 17.8/4/5 on 46/44/87 shooting. The 44% from three is also on 178 attempts or 6.6 per game. 2
Not sure about 1 posession but there have been some games, especially in the early 2000s where the lead never exceeded 4 points. 19
Wait people actually thought it was debatable? I know Randle has some obvious short comings buy hes still a far better player. 10
Also averaging 6 turnovers per game. Absolute bum! 6
Yep, just look at their 3P% 1
Cant qwhite figure it out 3
Id trust the raptors core more 17
Me too lol 2
People really act like theres a gargantuan talent difference between him and Trae when its really just a matter of personal and team environment. 11
Theres no recency bias. Theyve always been close, even in their rookie years and people acted like one was Stephen Curry and the other was Antoine Walker 1
Traes team literally had the worst offensive rating in NBA history when he was on the bench. Its an overused trope but he genuinely had no help. 3
For those wondering. - 7/10 from the field. - 4/5 from three. - 4/4 on free throws. 39
I really like this list. A few of the bigger changes Id make tho include. - Adding Jerry West to tier 3 - KG, Barkley and DRob to tier 4. - Stockton, Pippen and Thomas into tier 5. 3
Nah this is lame, youve got to include the clip if you post this 1
8 straight misses now including a dunk attempt. Not our night at all lol 3
Do you have a source for that? 90% of his threes being step backs sounds insane. The funny thing is that he hits those at a good rate coz it seems to get him in rhythm, its the wide open catch and shoot threes that hes terrible at 2
Based on [this stat](https://www.nba.com/stats/players/catch-shoot/?sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612742&PerMode=Totals) it says he went 21/75 (28%) last season on catch and shoot thr 5
I feel like theyre one of the favourites for him 4
If hes too soft to take a joke for a blooper play the dude doesnt deserve to be in the league lol 12
16-1 in the playoffs was unbelievable. The only game they lost was a game where the Cavs shot 22 free throws in the first quarter and ended up getting red hot to hit a Finals record 24 threes on 45 attempts. 9
People like the idea of Ben Simmons magically developing a jumper more than someone that continues to improve his game and take strides since his rookie season. Its bizarre to me. 3
Games against a Towns-less Minnesota shouldnt count. That team is completely garbage without him. Great to see Murray playing well again tho. 8
The Jazz are 38.0% of 39.5 attempts per game, better than Boston but Im assuming this is only by percentage 0
Remember how one "analyst" didnt vote him to All Defence because of that game lmao 11
The difference between the two is so small I dont know why youd take 15 fewer minutes of the other. 1
You do realise we were down like 31-7 early in this game? What do you want him to do from there? 3
Where were these posts when we beat the Clippers, demolished the Blazers and Spurs and sealed a close win against OKC in large part due to Rudys 4th quarter defence? 14
Its definitely one of them, I think he had the most points in a series of anyone ever and lime you said his supporting cast, except for Gasol, really failed to show up. 6
I wanted to be unique so I set out a bunch of criteria and found the team that fits it best. From memory I wanted a team that: - Sells out their home games and has crowds that are very vocal. - Has a successful history but hasnt won a champio 3
Its alright, LaMelo is a pretty tough opponent. 2
Assuming you mean a loss of at least 10 points, the record is 72 points by Wilt Chamberlain. [He did this on November 3 1962 in a 12 point loss](https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/196211030LAL.html) 3
Its so sad how quickly hes declined. 2018-19 was arguably a career best season averaging 25/8/5 and had developed a three ball hitting 2.5 threes per game. 30
Austin Rivers just ended us 21
I dont know how much of this loss was on Gobert. Boggy, Mitchell and Conley were a bigger reason with their terrible shooting. 1
The Dallas mavericks once wore literal trash bags. 3
He has 581 more steals than the second best player all-time in steals. The difference between second and eleventh all-time in steals is smaller than that 1
I wonder what people are more interested in. A hot streak by a veteran shooter or two exciting young point guards. Even on r/NBA if you were to post the highlights of that streak people wouldnt give it as many upvotes as a fancy pass by one of the B 5
This isnt an issue with their bench at all. The issue is their defensive game plan that allowed last years best 3P% team to generate countless wide open looks. 1
I dont think the Wizards have the guts to do it but its definitely a very "Iverson-esque" situation like you mentioned. 1
Somehow those numbers actually make him look better than he is right now. 2
Imagine being 4-4! Couldnt be the far superior elite 5-4 Utah Jazz 4
Pippen over 4x MVP Dr J? 1
At their peaks, in my opinion: - Start: Nash, Tmac, Dr J, KG, Wilt. - Bench: Stockton, Drexler, Baylor, Malone, Hakeem. - Cut: Kidd, Miller, Pippen, Dirk, Russell -1
Nah wait for the Russ fans to tell you that his knee from 5 years ago is still effecting him or some shit like that 1
That wouldnt have been entirely surprising. There was a split between Jazz fans of who was more important to the team. Dont forget Rudy was DPOY runner up in Haywards last season here. 1
Remember when he averaged like 29/8/12 but missed out on MVP by 2 rebounds per game. Hes always been a great passer when he focuses on that area of his game. 1
I cant believe this subreddit didnt learn from the whole Trae Young situation 9
Put some respect on this mans name! Fuck that asshole who called him the worst all-star ever last season. 24
Jokic 8
Shouldve been 10 points if the refs had the balls to call a tech on the Wolves for having 6 players on the court for the last possession 9
Good greif that trade was one sided 13
4 blocks too. Dennis Rodman type statline. 51
Hes not playing like a top 10 player in the league right now. The Suns are winning because of their unbelievable depth and bench play. 10
Exactly this. After taking a 1-0 series lead: - Russ went 7/19 for just 19 points an a scoreless 4th quarter against Utah in game 2. - Russ went 5/17 for just 14 points and a whopping 8 turnovers as Rubio throughly outplayed him with a 26 poin 10
Ugh and he just missed a wide open one for the lead with 10 seconds left. Thats heartbreaking. 11
Hes got to be surely. Hes got the best +/- per 100 possessions both on court and onOff for the Utah Jazz. Only 2 teams have a better record than us currently too and if he can maintain this production he absolutely has to be the front runner. 6
I think an important thing to include is that he is doing this in just 24 minutes per game too. He isnt one of those fake 6MOTYs that play starter minutes upward of 30 mins. 6
Not even top 50 all-time. King Lames. 1
Lol 9
Of course but hes had a wildly streaky set of games lately. Scored 60 then 30 then 10 then 40 then 10 again or something ridiculous like that. 2
I think time would heal all wounds. Hes still an MVP thats led them to the playoffs in all 8 of his seasons there. Has pretty much every scoring record the Rockets could ever imagine and got them as close to championship success as anyone in the post Hake 2
Random fact, Lebrons 2011-12 MVP was the just the second MVP in the last 20 years at the time won by a player that didnt lead their team to a top 3 record in the league. 1
2/6 from the line tho, trade his bum ass. 0
Admire him as a player but hes a dumb ass analyst. "emotional intelligence of Ghandi" is a bit of a joke too. 12
*injured* 4
Thanks for your input IsaacOkpornoYesDaddy 2
Damn I really feel for Knicks fans, it must be draining having the team struggle for so long. I really hoped theyd turned a corner. 1
Love Melo, Hate Simmons. Im still going with Simmons for greater defensive versatility. 1
Trae Young changed his game more than anyone to adapt to playing like Nash. He also bore the brunt of Nashs frustrations during his Hawks tenure with indirect jabs about free throw baiting involving Young. For fucks sake, Trae Young literally dev 11
Nah man, Jazz just locked him up. Had one man defending him whole he was bringing up the ball and a second one double teaming after he crossed half court. 2
Shooting slump, not much more. 16
Sounds about right. Dude is as passive and soft as the come. 0
Funnily he hasnt even looked *that good*, hes been a bit frustrated Missing some shots hed usually make. Still gonna finish with like 30/10/15 14
and theyve still got a 25ppg, borderline 50/40/90 scorer still to return to the team. This is going to be such a fun team to watch. 18
Jokic, Embiid, KAT and Gobert are better. Then I reckon you could construct a great argument that hes better than Bam and Sabonis to help push him into the top 5. 1
Probably because Orlando dont have enough (or loud enough) fans to tell everyone about it. Also maybe because hes not young to get that promising future talk and because he doesnt have a large stan base like the Luka, Trae, Jokic brigade. 1
It hurts them more that their generational point guard and next LeBron had 7 turnovers and only 3 field goals. 2
> I want a playoff team with hope for the future and amazing fans The Utah Jazz! Were a low-key team that could shock the league if all goes right. Donovan Mitchell is a young scoring phenom, Joe Ingles aka Slow Mo Joe is a playmaking and th 1
So weird that Utahs all-stars have been completely outplayed by Denvers star duo and its only a 5 point game. 2
Mitchell cant buy a shot rn, hes shooting 40% from three on 9 attempts per game for the season but hes 0/6 today from deep. 3 of those were end of shot clock/game clock heaves but its still a rough game for him. 10
Whats wrong with a brow tho, how does it make someone "look like a freak"? 4
What do you think, youd have to be a stubborn mfer to hate two all-time greats after they join your team. 1
Boucher is good but he doesnt face the same amount of attention on defence, nor does he have as much responsibility on offence to create his own shot and handle the ball. 5
Id be very happy with the Jazz shooting 49.7% from three for a season, especially with the amount of shots we put up on average. We have a top 5 defence already and so that change would make us unstoppable. 0
Make screen assists could as real assists...ha..haha...dont look at my flair. 6
In what fucking world is this a bad deal for the Pacers? 1
Not at all, their offence is unbelievable. Its just that they had such deep rosters that not everyone could get 15 shots per game 3
Doesnt need too, hes absolutely feasting in the paint. It feels like hes got 30 points on 15/15 shooting rn. 5
By allowing the Clippers to shoot 16/35 (45%) from three and put up 115 points in this game the Kings had their best defensive performance in three weeks… 23
I hate this claim. People act like KD became Tobias Harris and won free rings. In reality he was the best player on the team in the Finals. When Curry shot like 3/16 from the field in game 3 of the 2018 Finals, Durant put up 43/15/7. They needed him to wi 4
No we absolutely can not -1
I thought it was a pretty obvious elbow but Suns fans wanted to send me death threats in my DMs when I said that he made contact with Harris. Like you said they were watching Bookers right elbow from the ESPN replay which is why theyre convinced no contac 44
90% of the league does 2
Good fucking grief....40-4 at quarter time is ridiculous. 4
GIVE HAYWARD A BIGGER CONTRACT 1
Love seeing him succeed now that hes no longer in Boston lol. Dudes been absolutely unreal this year. Itll be tough to beat out the front court talent in the East (Giannis, Embiid, KD, Jaylen, Jayson, Bam, Sabonis and Middleton) but he deserves an al 6
Lol 16
Utah, you get a three point shooting exhibition and a defensive masterclass. 3
Fuck Marquese Chriss. Will never forget when he airballed a dunk and decided to fight Rubio because of it. -4
Dort effect and the fact that Dame is the only healthy Portland starter. He deserves to avoid any criticism for this game. 10
He doesnt deserve to get shit on for a 26/6/10 game while 4 of his starters were injured. 1
Hes made 15 straight field goals against the jazz, including the last game we played. 72
Its pretty incredible to witness to the point where Im not even mad. Its just amazing. 24
Everyones trying to and nobody can. 27
Here is a list of 20 players in the East that are more deserving than Westbrook to be an allstar this season. |Player| :--| |Bam Adebayo| |Bradley Beal| |Collin Sexton| |Domantas Sabonis| |Giannis Antetokounmpo| |Gordon Hayward| |James Harden| |Jayle 10
Second best player on the Sixers. Giannis, Embiid, KD, Jaylen, Jayson all seem very likely to make the Allstar team, while Bam, Sabonis and Middleton are all very good contenders too but I would like to see Harris make the All-Star team too. 4
Gobert is fucking feasting. 29 points and 15 rebounds through 3 quarters 1
Hes been unbelievable! 21 points today, all three pointers and 8 assists. Absolutely stepped up in the absence of Donovan. 3
KD wouldnt miss 11 of his last 12 shots against the Pistons while conceding a 20-0 run over a 6 minute fourth quarter stretch. -3
If Russell Westbrook actually makes the all-star team this year, with his current abhorrent form, I swear Ill never watch basketball again. 4
Sounds like the exact type of bullshit theyd pull. 1
Imma be honest I pulled basketball reference up to get a list of players and since Kyrie didnt meet the games played leaderboard I just overlooked him accidentally. In my head I had him up on the table but I just realised no that I didnt put him in. 1
Definitely. His numbers are unreal and its not his fault the Magic are down two starters but coaches always look towards team record when casting their ballots. 1
Beal is the leagues best scorer at 35ppg. I dont see a way he misses out. Mitchell is also the best scorer on the leagues best team by WL record so I doubt he misses out too. Lavine I could probably understand since he doesnt have the WL or extr 1
Which ones do you disagree with specifically? 2
That final play was just about the perfect Westbrook hustle play. 3
Right here. He showed the fuck up today and I respect him for it. That was gutsy as hell and he completely willed his team back. 38
I mean Ive got to show the same energy both ways. Im not going to just blindly hate like some people. I criticise his game so if he proves me wrong theres no reason not to own up to it and tip my hat off to him. 6
Please delete this so you dont jinx it 2
46 points!!! 62
I dont think hes underrated at all. Hes ranked almost unanimously in the top 25 all-time and is one of the most beloved players on r/nba. 9
Karl Malone could be interesting. He shot just 48.1% from the line on 5.0 attempts per game as a rookie. - Improved to 59.8% on 6.6 attempts in year 2. - Improved to 70.0% on 9.6 attempts in year 3. - Improved to 76.6% on 11.5 attempts in year 2
What a pathetic take. 1
Who cares about a bad shooting half, this doesnt need a post. 7
eMVPiid season. 19
I cant believe its an unprotected pick, how often does a team trade a pick with no restrictions like that? 13
Does anyone have a leaderboard for the players with the most 25+ point games? 4
Would probably be helpful if you mentioned who he was referring to. 5
I disagree. The Bucks defensive gameplay is built around heavily prioritising defending the rim and paint while leaving the corners wide open. Theres no reason to expect their opponent 3P% to drop, its a Budenholzer problem. 3
If they were in the East theyd be 0.5 games back for the 5th seed. Instead nobody is talking about them as much as they should be. Great turnaround by this team and Deaaron Fox deserves to be an All-Star. 3
Hes coming back from injury so Id cut him some slack..that said I do think maxing him was a bit of a panic move by Boston after they lost Kyrie. 3
Ingles is a better defender, playmaker and has a higher 3P% this season while leading his team to a better record. Seems reasonable to me. 17
Nah coz then we dont get to laugh at moments like that 1
I think someone said the other day that only LeBron James and Luka Doncic have had more 20 point games this season than Jerami Grant. He bet on himself and hes been playing at a consistent and high level, really love to see it. 2
FIRST!!!!!!!! 1
Thats why they say that defence wins championships. You need to be able to find a way to win when youre shots arent dropping at their usual rate 2
Wilt Chamberlain averaged 48.5 minutes per game in the 1961-62 season. 1
Let me try listing who I think was better. First the undeniably better players: Lebron, KD, Curry, Harden, Kawhi, Westbrook, CP3, Anthony Davis. Then the players who were top 5 players for like 3-5 of the years in that decade so Id rate them hig 4
> Utah Jazz star Rudy Gobert would never. Obviously because Shaq would be too scared to attack Gobert at the rim 8
We dont "deserve" three all-stars simply by virtue of SGA and Fox having had better seasons than Mike Conley both statistically and in terms of how much responsibility they have to lead their poorer teams. -1
Dont know why youre counting out your team. The Bucks have been unbelievable lately and have the reigning back to back MVP. Holidays absence from the game is offset by Mike Conley being out for the Jazz too so Im expecting a back and forth contest. 8
Royce O fucking Neale. Get this man on an All-Defence team, hes playing out of his skin today.. not that thats any difference to usual. 9
Whats our road record? Thats right, second best in the NBA at 10-3. 9
Yes. Maybe not the **greatest** team but we are the greatest **team**. 29
Damn for real? I hear it all the time in Pop vs Phil discussions and its always driven me crazy. Its usually in the context that Pop is better because he won his championships far apart and is still winning in todays NBA. -2
I dont ever remember that 1
Wait the Mavs havent won a playoff series since 2011? 1
Hes played half as many games as most of these guys listed, unlikely he makes it. 4
I like it, great calls on the injury replacements as well. 1
I do, just not as a starter 4
Mitchell has averaged 27/5/7 with 3.0 threes per game during Conleys 7 game absence. Theres no doubt that Donovan will get the nod over him at this stage. 1
Pascal is not an allstar this season. Fred is their best chance but he hasnt been better than Harden, Brown, Trae or Lavine and barring injuries its impossible for there to be 5 guards selected 11
Wow dude, youre really brave for this. Nobody ever calls him dirty. 78
Another one thats similar is back around 2015-2018 when people said "Michael Jordan in todays game would just be Demar Derozan with better defence". 6
1st in the East vs .500 team 3
This was posted like a month ago 5
GG Miami bro, well see yall in the finals. Dragic was incredible. 37