Sign and trade deal Suns send CP3, Cam Johnson, and 2 firsts Sixers send Ben Simmons Suns buy low on Simmons, get a guy that is an all nba defender, and help solve our rebounding issues which I think was our Achilles heal all season. We have enough shooters to surround him with and a great iso player, so his weaknesses won’t be too big of an issue. Also is locked up for 4 years and he fits our timeline. Sixers get an all nba pg that wants to win now. Great leadership just don’t know if the relationship is their with Doc? However he’ll make everyone around him better and he won’t be a liability at the end of games. Cam Johnson is a great 3 and D guy and I think he has underrated potential to get even better. Picks are just added assets but probably aren’t worth much. Obviously I think philly’s number 1 target should be Dame, but I don’t think this would be a bad fall back plan, especially since Bens value ain’t that high right now. Also I know they’re might be some issues involving Book and Ben over Kendall. Not sure how serious that’d be but hopefully they can just get over it.
How is that buying low? You are essentially trading 4-5 first round picks for Ben. Philly gets a hall of fame point guard and a good rotation piece. How is the spacing gonna work in phoenix with Ben and ayton?
I mean itâ€™s not a bad deal. But if Iâ€™m not mistaken you cannot package S&T player with other players in a trade.
You can. See KD/D-Lo trade where Warriors accepted numerous players back in addition to D-Loâ€™s S&T.
Youâ€™re not crazy youâ€™re just a moron
Was thinking about Simmons too. It seems crazy and stupid but I donâ€™t hate it
I dont think Philly would do it unless Bridges were included and at that point Phx likely says no. General idea isnt terrible, but it would also require Bookers input hes tight with CP3 if he would get pissed off by this then its a no go
I dont understand "fantasy trade" posts.
I dont hate it
Well, first of all you cant package Cam Johnson with S&Ted CP3.
He technically has a PO he could opt-in for; however, heâ€™s not opting in if he sniffs trade talk around his name.
crazy to think cp3 isnt gonna opt into a $44m contract lol
This trade doesnt clearly improve Phoenix and it clearly improves Philly.
I disagree. I think this trade makes sense and does improve the Suns. Suns lack a few things: height, rebounding, and another good perimeter defender. You can read about how the Suns faced a [huge math disadvantage here](https://theathletic.com/2702171/20
The issue with Simmons is that hes UNPLAYABLE in close games. He passed up a dunk because he was afraid of getting fouled. His "fit" is meaningless if he cant be on the floor in the most important moments.
Long term move, CP3 isnâ€™t getting any younger. Plus I donâ€™t think itâ€™ll be a couple more years until weâ€™re really ready to contend again.
Long term move that doesnt clearly improve the team.
They should go for Lillard if they doing that
Exactly, but that wouldnâ€™t work cause cp3 would never agree to that.
Can they do a 3 team trade in a sign and trade?
I just donâ€™t see a point in that.
Cp3 ainâ€™t playing for Morey again.
Simmons is fragile and needs to get his head right before I would trade for him.
Booker is going to need to change his game up if you do that. CP3 averaged like 9 assists per game and someone needs to fill that void.
Unless you find a way to match Simmons and Ayton, you miss most of Aytons offensive game, since it was predicated on CP3. Plus, I doubt Simmons solves your rebounding problem against big teams. And, as you saw, your three pointers come and go. Theres a go
Iâ€™d rather the suns sign Lonzo and let CP go
If we have the money under the cap, Iâ€™d be all for that
If CP walks we should, I think.
I cant see the trade offer but Simmons in Phoenix doesnt sound right. Ok he brings defense and solid passing but huge offense liability. Also think about locker room dynamic. It may sound stupid but I am 100% sure Booker will not want THAT Kendalls ex in
That seems like a lot for Ben Simmons tbh. I personally wouldnâ€™t send cam johnson
So you think theyâ€™d do CP3 straight up?
Hell nah. Then they close their window within like the next 1-2 yrs
Yea I think they would if they canâ€™t get dame