His game is complete and a lot of fans and media people even rate Larry Bird ahead of him lol shit don’t make any sense
>people even rate Larry Bird ahead of him This ain’t a hill to die on
People think think Durant has had a better career than Bird are wild. He aint there yet
Modern players will always be better and more skilled than older generations I think... which makes sense since the new generations learned from the older ones. Eye test, I could see why some people would put KD over Bird. One of the most unstoppable scor
This is why I think accolades have to matter at least a little bit for cross-generational comparisons. Theres no KD as we know him today without the ways Bird paved the way, and no Bird without early Dr J, Elgin, etc. Accolades are against contemporaries
We have found the common ground between 76ers fans and Celtics fans. That and fuck the Lakers.
How so? He was an amazing shooter in a time when 3pt shooting was still seen as a gimmick. If anything, I think he’d thrive in the spacing and offensive freedom of this era
Youre saying Luka and Tatum would have been able to go head to head with Magic. Youre nuts
Luka/tatum isnt the same level to begin with when Luka was a 1st team all NBA in his 2nd season and is at least a tier above tatum already.
Suppose that’s even remotely true. He isn’t playing now, he played then, and the kicker.. #HE WAS A GODDAMN 3x MVP & 3x CHAMPION, WHICH YOUR 2 EXAMPLES ARE NOT EVEN SNIFFING AS OF YET SO HOW IN THE LORD OF ALL LIVING FUCKS WOULD HE BE EQUAL TO T
So arguably one of the greatest SF of all time, with access to personal coaching, analysts, recovery facilities, under rules that make him untouchable on defense and a play style that would hugely benefit him all of the sudden is reduced to Tatum?... Ok.
Except for the fact that Larry Bird, on top of being skilled, had the highest basketball IQ of all time. He would run rings around anyone in the league mentally.
Larry Bird was better defender,better passer and better leader. KD is a better scorer. Durant is one of the greatest,but Top10 is still top 10. Hard to get in. Well se when he finishes his career. Still got a lot of basketball in him
Even if you claim that Bird is not a good defender (he is for me), he is still a better defender than Durant which is the point being raised here.
theres no shame in being behind these 11 players: no order: MJ, LeBron, Wilt, Russell, Kareem, Shaq, Hakeem, Timmy, Kobe, Bird, Magic I think ~80% of people would say those are the top 11 players ever. KD is definitely in that next tier
I think a lot of people are afraid to admit hes (you spelled "hes" wrong btw) a top 10 player all time because they are afraid to lie.
What a great case youve made. Just so convincing and substantive
Talent wise, sure, he is top 10 all time, maybe higher. Accolades wise? He is not in the same tier as Larry. KD is accurately rated. He is top 15ish all time. If he wins with the Nets he could climb higher up the all time rankings.
i dont think talent wise hes top 10 either, because theres so much that goes into talent, just scoring talent? sure hes probably top 5 but like passing, playmaking, defense, rebounding, hes average to a little above average
I think his combination of size and skill is enough to put him at top 10 all time. We have never seen a 7 footer with KDs ability and skill in the perimeter. People argue Giannis, but he is more of an athletic freak than an incredibly skilled player.
This is more a thing you can bring up with Steph and how he’s only referred to as the greatest shooter ever
This has to be trolling right? KD hasn’t got anywhere near Larry Legend level greatness. Either that, or you’re new to basketball.
Every championship team he’s been on arguably (and it isn’t a very tough argument to make) could do it without him...including the one he’s currently on
No not really, Brooklyn would not win without him, Warriors might but chances are they running into Lebron. KD makes a huge difference hes not just there for the bandwagon, you can say hes played for some of the best teams ever but hes a HUGE reason why t
The warriors literally beat lebron without kd anyways they just also lost once. Every champ team he’s been on could* win without him...his presence just insures it. Hard to put him in the top 10 when all of those guys were the main reason their team won
Top all time is pretty subjective if you think about it. Like how do you even compare different eras? The only way to make it remotely less subjective is by using accolades even those have different meanings in different eras.
KD is not a Top 10 player All time, hes top 15 for sure. Thing is he played with a lot of Superstars and HOF players in their prime. In the next 10 years when he isnt playing anymore and people look back at his stats and stuff like that, then yeah they co
Steph and KD aren’t too 10 yet. They can get there but KD will never be ahead of bird unless he wins like 2 more FMVPS.
Steph has 0 chance of top 10 unless he gets like 6 more All-NBA selections and some FMVPs
If you think he is a top 10 ever player on the likes of Olajuwon, Shaq, Duncan Magic then you are absolutely delusional. Probably started watching basketball when he joined a team he couldnt beat and got half the defensive attention any other star in the
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Bird had a much, much better all-around game, stop it. Kd is a top 5 scorer of all time, Im not putting him in my top 10 overall though.