I understand people question his leadership and the fact that he choked this year. However, there was someone who said that Siakim and FVV carried him last year. Did people not watch the playoffs last year? These are the stats for Kawhis playoffs last season Against the Magic |PPG|RPG|APG|FG%|3P%|FT%| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |27.8|6.6|3|56.6|50|88.3| Against the Sixers |PPG|RPG|APG|FG%|3P%|FT%| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |34.7|9.9|4|53|33.3|85.7| Against the Bucks |PPG|RPG|APG|FG%|3P%|FT%| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |29.8|9.5|4.3|44.2|34.4|88.5| Against the Warriors |PPG|RPG|APG|FG%|3P%|FT%| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |28.5|9.8|4.2|43.4|35.7|90.6| Are these the stats of someone that was carried? Also, Kawhi took 39 shots (the most in his career) in game 7 against the Sixers. He took those shots because everyone else was too scared to shoot the ball. |Players that "carried" Kawhi|Shot attempts|Shots made| |:-|:-|:-| |Kyle Lowry|13|4| |Pascal Siakim|11|4| |Fred Van Fleet|5|0| Lets also look at the series against the Nuggets this year |PPG|RPG|APG|FG%|3P%|FT%| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |24.3|8.6|5.9|44.2|35.9|87.2| Games 2 and 7 were the games where he had a bad performance. Other than that, he played a solid series. Lets also not forget why the Raptors lost the series against the Celtics. They couldnt buy a bucket down the stretch and the Pascal Siakim spin move stopped being effective when they stopped playing the Nets. I wont even say that Kawhi carried the Raptors last playoffs, but theyre not winning last year without him.
I think Kawhis hate right now shows the amount of superstardom hes reached off of how good he actually is. Imagine if Lebron shit the bed against a team like the Nuggets in a game 7. Hed be absolutely crucified.
Who is saying Kawhi got carried besides some random comment? Seems like a straw man tbh Consensus seems to be more that the Raptors were cohesive and complete as hell and he was their best player on top of that. Just didn’t carry the team singlehandedl
> Just didn’t carry the team singlehandedly Up until the latter half of the conference finals he pretty much did offensively
When youre a superstar, you cant have 2/7 bad games in a series and expect to not receive critcism
yup, dont think lebron had two bad games all playoffs
Its easy to understand. LeBron stans and Laker fans are the most vocal group atm and they just won. Kawhi is getting slandered almost entirely for that reason.
To an extent. He’s also getting bashed because the “Kawhi best player in the world” sentiment was pretty rampant after last years playoffs, and while he was good in the bubble, he clearly wasn’t the best.
He should get the same treatment Lebron got in 2011 with that sorry ass game 7,and I love Kawhi.
Still went to LA do be a diva and choked in the second round
I know a Houston fan ain’t talking about second round chokes
You’re a bandwagon laker fan from Canada Why you tryna talk shit about another team
Reminds me of a guy in the rockets.
Sounds like James Harden minus the LA part
Dont worry. He will play great next year and the best player in the world arguments will start again.
Kawhi has played on two well constructed teams with great coaches. He then went to the clippers and load managed, got what he wanted. He deserves the shade but that doesn’t mean he’s a bad player. Still great but you can see why he got the hate.
I mean, I get the hate but to say he was carried last season is crazy
Indeed. Just haters being haters. They’ll always say others carried the greats. Gasol Pippen Irving. It goes on and on.
Good luck man, this sub lowkey r/Lakers rn and some Laker fans have an irrational hatred of Kawhi
I would argue all sports hate is irrational But fuck kawhi
Nah. There’s a reason for Spurs fans to hate him, y’all have no reason “boo boo he didn’t come to my team”, so what, we won a ring
This is dumb. Any superstar would be dragged for a performance like Kawhis, especially in g7.
literally seen an upvoted comment saying van vleet and siakim carried him in the finals smdh out yall fucking minds EDIT: damn this post is about the comment too
Yeah, I couldnt believe that shit was upvoted
People will hop back on Kawhis nuts once the Clippers start winning again next year. Its always like that, this sub is reactionary af. Kawhi is still a top 5 talent at minimum, despite everyone being out to get him at the moment.
He is top three.
Personally, I have him at #4 behind LeBron, KD and Curry, but this could easily change if KD isnt the same post injury.
Dont bother, 75% of people here are too stupid to overcome recency bias. One sub-par series (in which he was only awful for two games) is enough to override four straight postseasons of elite play in the mind of these dumb fucks.
No need for insults. He is a superstar player he is going to get Superstar criticism.
The hate means he’s good
People crowned him the number one guy in the league when that happens the expectations are higher than choking against the Nuggs.
If you play like that in a game 7 youre gonna get shit on fir a while. Everyone still knows what hes capable of
Theres really no point in using logic here. People were really saying they would take Jimmy Butler over Kawhi fucking Leonard.
Its just that most people considered him arguably the best player in the league or second best and he dissapointed when it mattered most. This season proved he isnt capable of being the guy who can make his teammates better like other stars in the league
> Other than that, he played a solid series. He was touted as the best player in the league, solid doesnt cut it. Steph, Lebron, KD, etc would all be crucified for a *solid* performance.
Honestly, completely understand, but even great players have at least one bad series
He’s a top 3-5 player, and having to question the leadership of someone that good is a big deal. It doesn’t mean he isn’t terrific, but he’s only being held to the same standard that other superstars would be.
Ka-who couldve been a legend in Toronto. Instead he chose to live in San Diego and fly to LA.